Duck boat disaster in Missouri 5

[bimr]

More than 40 people have died in incidents involving Ducks since 1999, so one would think that the cost for buying insurance would put these obsolete devices out of business.

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Was up at the Wisconsin Dells earlier this summer and don't understand the interest in that particular tourist attraction.

Another tourist attraction is the Huey. Was up in St. Joseph Michigan a few weeks ago and this Lest We Forget organization was promoting rides over the City. Riding in a 40 year Huey seems to make little sense. The organization obviously can't meet the legal standard to provide paid for rides so they offer a 1-year membership with a free ride on the Huey.

Tourist Attractions

 

[stevenal]

Saying that having engine issues and drifting is the cause of those deaths is about the same as saying that a failed tire would be at fault for deaths if a bus pulls over to the side of a road for a flat and then gets run over by a transport truck. Both of those issues would lead up to the final incident, but the actual fault lies fully with the operator of the other vessel/vehicle.

A better comparison would if your bus stalled on the tracks and got hit by a train.

 

[waross]

Precedent to support your post, stevenal.
In 2005 a bus carrying construction workers home for days off was blocked by an accident on the highway. Under extreme pressure from the workers who wanted to get home, the bus driver tried to turn around and became stuck cross-ways on the highway.
All the lights and flashers were on on the bus.
A semi hit the bus broadside.
Six workers died.
The semi driver was charged with six counts of dangerous operation of a motor vehicle causing death and 21 counts of dangerous driving causing bodily harm.

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[LittleInch]

John Rbaker.

If ypu flick back to my post about three or four in and follow the wiki page, most can be found there.

The first is the fire on the River Thames, caused, ironically, by additional buoyancy sprayed in catching fire on the engine exhaust

The second picture is a broken down duck in Dublin

third no idea
Fourth is the barge ramming
Fifth is the sinking in Albert dock Liverpool ( all got out alive with some helped by a passing narrow boat). The company lost its licence and folded shortly after.
Last one look like Dublin from the road markings

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[davidbeach]

The third picture was Seattle. Wheel came off the DUKW.

 

[bimr]

A better comparison would if your bus stalled on the tracks and got hit by a train.

Not so fast.

Commercial ships in shipping lanes have the right-of-way. If you are taking your craft out in the water, you better make sure that it is adequately maintained so that you are not adrift in the shipping lanes.

If you craft is damaged by the commercial ship, the ship's owner is likely to sue for damages as well.

 

[LionelHutz]

stevenal - Not really, unless the train engineer can steer the train.

bimr - Not so fast yourself. During normal navigation, if the give way vessel doesn't give way, the stand-on vessel must make every attempt possible to avoid a collision. Even with the "right of way" you can't just continue course and run over another boat because it should have given way.

 

[IRstuff]

I would imagine that it would be similar to rear-ending another car on the freeway; that used to be automatically faulted to the one in the rear, but they changed that so that fault is apportioned to either party as the situation warrants.

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[stevenal]

I think folks here are greatly overestimating the ability of a tug/barge operator to steer or slow this mass. It's nothing like a truck on the freeway. Yes, he must make every effort to avoid a collision, and the fact he was was distracted and ignored radio calls went against him because of that. But maintaining a proper lookout is no guarantee a stalled vessel can be avoided. When I see a barge when on the water, I stay well away.

Full NTSB report

 

[LionelHutz]

There was ample time for the tug to have avoided that collision. It's stupid arguing about it not being possible or not the tugs fault any further.

 

[ornerynorsk]

This is low, even for lawyers . . .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...liability-in-the-duck-boat-tragedy/ar-BBOsoKD

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[RVAmeche]

Sounds like there's at least some precedent for that excuse to be ignored, since it's said that companies have tried to use that loophole before.

 

[charliealphabravo]

Those attorneys were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. - Jurassic Park.

 

[theCorkster]

One has to realize that our legal system is based in advocacy and as such does not necessarily care about justice. Justice through our system does not always reflect the truth.

 

[LionelHutz]

It sounds like a standard defense practice that is commonly done in these types of cases. Nothing more or less should be construed from it.

 

[CWB1]

This is low, even for lawyers . . .

Which side are you referring to?

 

[charliealphabravo]

Captain charged in federal court.

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