Latest IPCC Climate Change Report 14

[dik]

Available here:

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_SPM_final.pdf

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

Misdirection? (cf. T. Carlson)

The broad trends of climate over geologic time are informational but irrelevant to our present dilemma. We have less than a generation to turn this around.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

 

[TugboatEng]

I appreciate you naming your projections. Yes, naming Tucker Carlson is misdirection. To get us back on track, the information I presented is from the Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research.

But I ask, how are the broad trends irrelevant when they demonstrate that nothing anomalous is occuring with regards to sea level rise? We are currently experiencing lower than average sea level rise when compared to the previous 20,000 years.

 

[dik]

I generally refer to them as the 'First Peoples' because when they arrived there were no others. Also one of the reasons the travellers from Europe had such a horrific effect on them because of disease. The first peoples had no immunity... Smallpox and the plagues were likely the bioweapons of choice.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

You would have to take that up with the relevant IPCC scientists, who have concluded we are in imminent danger of overheating Planet A.

To say 'but the earth has been hotter before and it will be hotter again' is equivalent to dismissing safety concerns by saying 'well we're all going to die anyway'. These are known as thought-terminating clichés.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

 

a natural conclusion when you are a subsistence culture.

That is a persistent trope of settler colonialism in North America. In grade school we only learned about the Incas and Aztecs, but N America also had vast confederations with systems of governance and long-range trading networks. You can have civilization without the wheel or written language or the blunderbuss.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

 

[GregLocock]

non sequiturs - living up to your nick I see.

Cheers

Greg Locock


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[hokie66]

So where did you only learn about Incas and Aztecs? That may give us an insight into the way you think.

Full disclosure, I only learned about Pocahontas, Chief Powhatan, and Captain John Smith.

 

[TugboatEng]

On the subject of hotter, what exactly does that mean? We don't feel temperature so it can't be that (we feel flux). CO2 traps heat, not temperature. Why does nobody speak with meaningful terms such as enthalpy? There is a >3x difference in specific heat between 0 and 100% humidity. Does anybody have any historical data on enthalpy of our atmosphere?

A psychrometric chart needs to accompany all climate change numbers.

 

non sequiturs - living up to your nick I see.

I think maybe you did a non sequitur! Hilarious, you couldn't make it up.
And the nick is merely a mild pun - do I really need to spell it out? I hate spelling out obvious things.
Finally, I'm flattered you are interested in how I think. Read and learn, then get back to me with your diagnosis.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

 

So where did you only learn about Incas and Aztecs?

The same place we had residential schools, the Sixties Scoop, and where we still have mass incarceration of indigenous people and third-world reservations. As I recall we also had sections on Switzerland, Japan and Australia in geography class.

Oh, I almost forgot, the great warrior Tecumseth, who helped keep us unamerican in 1812-14 but doesn't even warrant a monument.


"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

 

[hokie66]

Sorry, you talk in riddles, so I will stop trying to interpret. Nations separated by a common language, I suppose.

 

[TugboatEng]

You would have to take that up with the relevant IPCC scientists, who have concluded we are in imminent danger of overheating Planet A.

Concluding otherwise would put them out of a job. They may be correct but due to their conflicts, they require extra skepticism of all of their claims.

 

[TugboatEng]

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[dik]

By the same token... stopping all crime would put policemen out of a job. Are you inferring that police cause crime to keep themselves employed?

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[hokie66]

That's a stretch from what he said, dik. Whataboutism to the extreme.

 

[dik]

agreed Hokie... for a statement to be 'true', it should be applicable in the extreme; I think his statement reasoning fails miserably...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[hokie66]

It seemed quite reasonable to me.

 

We seem to be confusing cynicism or contrarianism with skepticism.

(Sorry but I can't produce a peer-reviewed paper to back up that thought.)

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

 

[dik]

It looks like mother nature is helping out in this regard...

https://cabinradio.ca/89024/news/en...-alarm-as-thousands-of-beavers-migrate-north/

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?

-Dik

 

[dik]

more news... it seems to be getting a little more pressing.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ssil-fuel-use-as-landmark-ippc-report-readied

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?

-Dik