Loads on Guards and Handrails 2

[dik]

Does anyone treat these loads as the factored load with the design being capable of resisting these loads (without load factors DL and LL factors = 1.0 for both). These are the maximum loads. Dik

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[dik]

Thanks, Koot... what is the guide? Does it have any creds?

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[KootK]

I provided a spiffy hyperlink to the guide in my previous post dik.

 

[SE2607]

dik - Regarding ASCE 7-16, see section 4.5. Note: chapter 4 is about live loads.

 

[dik]

It's a problem with the approach for limit states design using probabilities of loads... If the stipulated load is absolute maximum, where does the bell curve intersect the load and resistance? I've always just used load factors... but this has me thinking a bit...

Koot, can you post the thread? I cannot find a previous post in this thread. Thanks...

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[jayrod12]

This was what he posted

 

[dik]

The ASCE considers it as a live load, thanks SE... I'm not familiar with the ASCE... does the ASCE have any provisions for loading that is absolute maximum? see note above re probability of overloading...

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[dik]

Thanks, jay... got it, will read it this weekend...

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[wrantler]

I almost never use design to code as a criteria... I like 'safe'. When I was younger, when a new code came out, I used to carefully go through it, looking for 'exceptions'... I've outgrown that...

I meant code is accepted as the baseline and/or bare minimum. You can of course go above it. And maybe below it if you can prove otherwise. But for any guardrail I would be generous.. especially if it is wood. I see more people falling off balconies/decks than buildings collapsing on them.

 

[wrantler]

On second thought I would argue that the code is not only part of the design criteria it is the design criteria.