Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 11 54

[SFCharlie]

A continuation of our discussion of this failure. Best to read the other threads first to avoid rehashing things already discussed.
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 02
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 03
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 04
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 05
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 06
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 07
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 08
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 09
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 10


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[gonefishing2]

So is the message here, Dan is a slow learner? Or is the message here, it does not matter how many times the rebar placement is disapproved by the inspector, it only takes one EOR 'Trump' Card to override all disapprovals in Florida?

 

[Demented]

 

[gonefishing2]

According to Wikipedia, California is dumping a trillion gallons of fresh Water in the ocean to protect the Delta Smelt, a three inch bait fish.

 

[Demented]

I don't know much of nuthin', but if thats a 3 inch fish, I have some tiny ass hands.

Precision guess work based on information provided by those of questionable knowledge

 

[gonefishing2]

Apparently 2-3 size is correct, but obviously the one pictured don't fit that model.

From Wikipedia, "The delta smelt (Hypomesus transpacificus) is an endangered[1][2] slender-bodied smelt, about 5 to 7 cm (2.0 to 2.8 in) long, in the family Osmeridae. Endemic to the upper Sacramento-San Joaquin Estuary of California, it mainly inhabits the freshwater-saltwater mixing zone of the estuary, except during its spawning season, when it migrates upstream to fresh water following winter "first flush" flow events (around March to May).[3] It functions as an indicator species for the overall health of the Delta's ecosystem.[4]

Because of its one-year lifecycle and relatively low fecundity, it is very susceptible to changes in the environmental conditions of its native habitat.[5] Efforts to protect the endangered fish from further decline have focused on limiting or modifying the large-scale pumping activities of state and federal water projects at the southern end of the estuary, thereby limiting water available to farming. However, these efforts have not prevented the species from becoming functionally extinct in the wild.[6]"

Edit: I guess the root problem is humans wanting to live in naturally inhabitable areas, like in high rise condo's on reclaimed Ocean, or in the desert and have their green grass too. All at a steep price to bring in all the things necessary to support human occupation.

 

[Demented]

Pretty views are pretty views.

Have there been any updates on the checking of the slab and piles, or if that emergency work to brace the tub has been done yet? I'm kinda of assuming they're waiting to get in and inspect everything until the walls and pool are braced. Safety first with the white hats. Safety third, yellow.

 

[Vance Wiley]

Don't need to - we can haul the water with the Bullet Train - nobody's going to ride it anyway. Just gotta get the water to Corcoran at the south end of the line and like a flash it will be in Chowchilla at the north end.
That is the extent of the rails. Why those two metropolis centers? Corcoran is the Men's Prison and Chowchilla is the Women's prison. California appreciates it's felons.
What's that you say? No Bullet TRAIN to use on the new railway that is built and cost billions? That's OK -just use an old SP yard engine and tank cars. The rails are standard gauge. Can't make the speed needed to match the superelevation? Just put bigger trucks on the down side. Why does everybody make this difficult?
I know - off topic. Sorry - but it IS a disaster.

 

[davidbeach]

Castaic can make water move uphill.

Fish are an indication of many things and are probably more important than a bunch more people in a place that already has too many.

I’ll see your silver lining and raise you two black clouds. - Protection Operations

 

[SFCharlie]

Castaic can make water move uphill.

...is it pumped storage?, or how should I interpret this?

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[Spartan5]

Edit: I guess the root problem is humans

Full stop.

 

[davidbeach]

Castaic is pumped storage. In the late '70's the density of what they were pumping and drawing down was well above 1. Algae sludge much more than water. No, it can't actually get to to point of south-to-north flows but it overcomes most of the elevation problems.

I’ll see your silver lining and raise you two black clouds. - Protection Operations

 

[SFCharlie]

Castaic is pumped storage.

Cool Thanks for the info. ...wonder why it's not highlighted on their web page?
...sounds like it's all ready to receive treated waste water...

 

[12345abc6ttyui67]

Polite request, can we please stay on topic.

 

[TheGreenLama]

During the FIU bridge collapse discussions you would often tell a poster to reread the thread from the beginning cause this subject had already been mentioned. I would never wish nor ask that of anyone for this thread. After returning from vacation I came back and read from Jul 4 to about Jul 31 straight thru and my brain nearly exploded. I dare anyone to go back and read this from the beginning.

 

[SFCharlie]

Polite request, can we please stay on topic

yes Thank you!


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[rodface]

@TheGreenLama thank you for the laugh

 

[raymiepo]

in case anybody (like me) missed the update >

https://www.nist.gov/news-events/ne...te-nists-champlain-towers-south-investigation

 

[SFCharlie]

Building safety organizations from around the country gathered Tuesday in West Palm Beach for a dialogue on how to prevent another Surfside condo collapse.

Building safety groups meet following Surfside condo collapse

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[MaudSTL]

Although it contains nothing of engineering interest, this is a well written human interest story about the Town of Surfside. Will Surfside Ever Be the Same? Residents Tell Their Small Town's Story

 

[SFCharlie]

this is a well written human interest story

I really enjoyed this, Thank you.

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