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Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 13 44

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A continuation of our discussion of this failure. Best to read the other threads first to avoid rehashing things already discussed.
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 02
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 03
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 04
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 05
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 06
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 07
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 08
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 09
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 10
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 11
Miami Beach, Champlain Towers South apartment building collapse, Part 12


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Optical98 (Computer)11 Sep 21 22:00 said:
No one on here knows what exactly happened nor has anyone license to try and shutdown open and honest inquiry on this thread.
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Yes First Thank you for posting links to articles of interest!
What I haven't seen recently is open and honest inquiry into what exactly happened.
There are posts here about the tips of the remaining columns in pool deck area.
There are posts about how the pool deck collapse pulled down the center façade of the south face of the north wing.
Let's talk about these? or any other aspect of what exactly happened?


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Precision guess work based on information provided by those of questionable knowledge
 
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That specific note, sometime in July 2004 likely.
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SFCharlie said:
Wow, do we have a date?
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WOW? I thought we were expecting 9.5 inches of structural concrete, then at least 2 or 2.5 inches of topping concrete?
So if it's less than 12, call the engineers so they can evaluate it seems like pretty standard stuff to me.
Then they chip off the tile and sand and bolt directly to the 11.625 inch slab.
If I was the contractor I would just call the Engineer to get a clarification of what he expected and what I found.
 
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Careful or we'll get 10 more posts of the ACI Code book..
 
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Optical98 said:
Careful or we'll get 10 more posts of the ACI Code book..
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I have no problem with the "free and open exchange of ideas". If it takes 10 more posts because some people want to be cryptic and mysterious, that's fine with me. But I can't engage in honest discussion without knowing what the issue is here.


 
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Optical98 (Computer)2 Sep 21 03:16 said:
Also, did we ever decide what these items on the roof were, this is a satellite photo est date 6/22/21, showing the roofing crane as roof work was still in progress.
What is that large round silver object?
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Did we ever get an answer? UFO?


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Now...10 days later you're asking me this? I didn't see a response. But the picture I added with my question wasn't high res to say the least.
So Unidentified Object, Not flying.
 
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Isn't E just the HVAC unit which sat on top of the red framework (D)?

Note the red framework has been flipped upside down (the short beams running up/down the page hung under the long beams running left/right across the page).

Unidentified object E is then the HVAC unit, smashed and split open along the seams.

Check the photo provided by Demented (3rd post, part 9) for reference.
 
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