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[Alistair_Heaton]

Anyone got one?


How can kids and pets get injured with it?

Or is it just lacking safety screens from moving bits?

 

[LionelHutz]

If crucifying somethings in social circles/media is the only way of geting bad or deadly products of the market, then may it be so.

Not really, in North America it's currently how you erase anything and everyone you don't agree with, regardless of guilt.

 

[dik]

Prevalent in NA, but I don't think it's exclusive... great observation.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[CWB1]

To me a toddler is a child that isn't school aged, <5. In any case, I hadn't thought of their access to step stools however was questioning their ability to reach the controls in the video. I never doubt any kid's intelligence, I wish I was still half as clever as I am in stories my folks tell.

 

[RedSnake]

When I was about 3 and a half and I have a sister who are 1 year and 2 month younger then me.
I slept in a ordinary bed and she in a crib.
So one Sunday when our parents was sleeping late, I helped here by lifting here out of the crib and then we went to the kitchen to make breakfast.
We where quite curtain that we hade everything figured out.
So we toke all the coffee and some gruel powder and pour out everything on the floor and then poured some water on everything.
At this time there was no stores open on Sundays, so my mother had to sift out some coffee from the gruel powder to get some coffee when they finally got up.

B.R. A


“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[Spartan5]

With todays society, that result was expected, same result as every other example of crucifying someone or something in social circles.

An average of 20,000 people a year were going to the ER in the US because of treadmills long before Peleton came along and there will continue to be 20,000 people a year on average still going to the ER in the US after this recall.

Are you suggesting that this recall is the result of some aggressive social media crucification campaign against Peloton? That’s not what I’ve observed.

A far bigger problem with social media is the dissemination of misinformation presented as facts and the conflation of data about one thing into something completely unrelated.

Adults get hurt on treadmills. Kids get hurt on treadmills. I don’t think getting one’s hand an arm caught what amounts to a belt sander would be a pleasant experience. In this instance and, in lieu of that due to the design, the treadmills were running kids over like a Sherman tank.

Neither are great. One seems worse.

 

[LionelHutz]

Yes, the media and such went on about how Peloton treadmills are so dangerous they need to immediately stop being used with no mention at all about how you can get hurt on pretty much every other make and that they all have some danger to them.

In that video, it's quite possible the Peloton actually saved that kid from belt burns. Another rubber belted model might not have stopped moving when his face was against the belt. There have been many cases of rather severe burns when someone got caught up against a belt on a different make. Skin grafts and months of recovery type of burns. It's happened to both adults and kids.

Also, in the posted video, the big rubber ball was what lifted it up as it pulled it under. If the weight was on the kid then he wouldn't have been able to crawl back out. It also didn't go over the ball or him like a tank. It took some time and a bunch of wiggling by the kid before it finally pulled the ball under, and him with it.

 

[RedSnake]

All true.
But a kid died because of that model and brand, that was the reason.
Even if skin grafs and burns and all other injuries you can sustain are unnecessary, they are at least recoverable.
Does not mean they are okey though.
But if you are dead you are dead.

And I am quite sure that the kid in the video is not the kid that died, it does not say so anywhere in the link.

/A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[Spartan5]

Yes, the media and such went on about how Peloton treadmills are so dangerous they need to immediately stop being used with no mention at all about how you can get hurt on pretty much every other make and that they all have some danger to them.

So not social media, but “the media and such.”

This was not some social media, media, or even such “crucification” exposé hit job. It only got their attention because the CPSC forced this issue and issued press releases after Peloton ignored them. The press reported the press release. What’s the problem there? What is it that is wrong about any of this?

Here’s the reporting from CNN on the matter (did you read it?):

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/17/business/peloton-tread-plus-cpsc-statement/index.html

It was factual reporting on the statements of the CSPC and Consumer Reports (typically pretty unbiased, no?).

And you want to ignore the fact it is running over kids like a tank and imply that that’s actually a safety feature compared to other treadmills? I don’t even know what to say to that.

 

[CWB1]

...so my mother had to sift out some coffee from the gruel powder to get some coffee when they finally got up.

Good story! My mom's favorite - she opened the cookie jar one day to find a bite out of every cookie. Apparently I discovered that nobody wanted a cookie someone else had bitten. PS. I'm adding gruel powder to my shopping list now as I'm fairly certain I have never eaten it. Not sure if its common in Europe but stateside "gruel" is what they feed prisoners and orphans in movies, hopefully its better than the stereotype.

This was not some social media, media, or even such “crucification” exposé hit job. It only got their attention because the CPSC forced this issue and issued press releases after Peloton ignored them.

This story was actually trending before the govt became involved due to the child's death.

 

[Spartan5]

This story was actually trending before the govt became involved due to the child's death.

While “trending” isn’t exactly a crucifixion, I’m interested in learning more about this. Can you share where you first saw this and when? Or is there some other timeline. Do you know for sure when the CPSC started an investigation?

 

[LionelHutz]

So, we have to prove the media and social trending to you?

How about you post proof that no other treadmill can pull a child under it? There are a bunch of models with no protection across the back of the track. How do all of those prevent a child from being pulled under them? How would they have prevented a rubber ball from being pulled under when the ball is shoved into the back of the track?

How can you say this model is far more dangerous than any other model without knowing the details of the accident? It could have been a freak accident that could have happened with many different models.

Any stories like that circle in social media along with lots of stupid unwashed opinions to go along with it. It's kind of like this thread. Any sensational story the media writes sees lots of play time on social media.

And yes, the kid in the video would have been hurt worse if the treadmill was a design that didn't stop so easily when he got wedged into the back of the track. I won't change this opinion no matter how much you write snarky ignorant comments about a statement you made up then stupidly try to attribute to me. If it was running over kids like a tank it sure as hell wouldn't have taken so long to finally do it. It would have pulled him right under immediately, twisting his head over backwards and burning his arms and face as it did it.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

I agree Lionel that my gut feel is that other treadmills have been doing the same or have the capability to do the same for years.

As for the huge explosion on social media I suspect its because of the reports of a high up political figure moving something made by the same company into his new lodgings and having issues with cyber security.

Which for some is crime enough to try and bring the company down the fact someone they hate bought one and uses it.

 

[Spartan5]

So, we have to prove the media and social trending to you?

How about you post proof that no other treadmill can pull a child under it? There are a bunch of models with no protection across the back of the track. How do all of those prevent a child from being pulled under them? How would they have prevented a rubber ball from being pulled under when the ball is shoved into the back of the track?

How can you say this model is far more dangerous than any other model without knowing the details of the accident? It could have been a freak accident that could have happened with many different models.

Any stories like that circle in social media along with lots of stupid unwashed opinions to go along with it. It's kind of like this thread. Any sensational story the media writes sees lots of play time on social media.

If you’re going to blame the social media, media, and such for this; then yeah, you have to post some(any)thing to support that.

I didn’t see some social media “crucifixion” here. I didn’t see sensationalistic reporting. Look at the article in the first post and tell me what your problems are with it.

All of this is happening because of the investigation by the CPSC which started the day after Peloton first learned of the 6 year old that was dragged under a piece of their equipment and killed. At least 29 other children suffered broken bones, second and third degree abrasions, and at permanent traumatic brain injury as a result of similar accidents. That was especially concerning to the CPSC. And that was the reason they acted.

This is not a case of social media acting “erase anything and everyone you don't agree with, regardless of guilt.” There’s zero evidence of that. I can say that this is far more dangerous than other treadmills because that’s what’s the CPSC has said. If anyone would know, it would be them.

 

[dik]

It started with the corvair...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[Spartan5]

Sounds like another useless safeguard to be ignored. Going back to the video linked, do we really think the toddlers started the treadmill going on their own?

Why wouldn’t we think that they started it on their own? The controls for activation, incline, and speed are all at shoulder height of the girl operating it. They are physical knobs/buttons, not part of the touch screen. There are no stools needed to get it going. I’m guessing a 3-year-old can reach all of the inputs needed to get it going.

 

[RedSnake]

PS. I'm adding gruel powder to my shopping list now as I'm fairly certain I have never eaten it.

I am not sure the proper word is gruel powder (it was what translate suggested).

In Swedish it is välling..

Porridge is a classic Swedish dish whose main ingredients are cereals (usually oats) and milk. It is a thinner porridge that is drunk or eaten as soup.

It is common to give it to kids and toddlers after they stop breastfeeding, especially in the morning and before bedtime.
And it is given in a feeding bottle, if you are a grow up you can drink it in a big cup.

Ones I watered all the flowers with vodka, they all died and there where no drinks after the dinner party.

Best Regards A



“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

its basically oat flour, my kid still eats it and likes it.

Its pretty bland and texture less. The kids stick jam and honey in it or berries. I don't like it but I get outvoted sometimes when I want to make whole oats porridge. Apparently you can put bacon in at well according to my son who after I have been outvoted and cooked myself bacon and eggs tries to steal my bacon.

 

[RedSnake]

You could/can buy it as a formula for grownups to, long times since I had some but I liked it.
I think there where more taste to that one.
Everything gets better with bacon.

/A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[LittleInch]

"Watering the flowers with vodka"

I guess the guests weren't desperate enough to drink from the vase....

Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.

 

[RedSnake]

It was potted plants.

/A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein