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Potential Disaster in the Making 10

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phamENG

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Feb 6, 2015
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Cumbre Vieja, a volcano on La Palma in the Canaries, just erupted a couple of hours ago. National Geographic did an episode on it as part of a 'Disaster Earth' series a few years ago. Essentially, there's evidence of a massive landslide on the island a few hundred millennia ago, the likes of which would have formed a tsunami large enough to hit the east coast of the US. A recent earthquake seems to have restarted the process and formed a large fissure along the island.

Here's to hoping it doesn't move any more....
 
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1503 just watch where the wind is coming from.

Currently its NNE which is perfect for the other islands.

If its changes you are fecked from the East or NE. Poo loads of SO2
 
Another explosion and new jet. Don't know exactly where it is yet.

Fortunately the wind very seldom comes from due west.
 
Here they say El Paso ?

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein
 
[ponder] So what is the village of El Paso on La Palma called then. [ponder]

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“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein
 
Always interesting (albeit scary) to see these things happen in real time. In Auckland around volcano cones there are basalt flows where underneath the flow there is peat / tree debris etc. Also (hasn't happened to me specifically but I have heard of this happening) where the boundary of the basalt flow happens to run through a specific property you can have some pretty interesting undiscovered conditions if it turns out your three boreholes all hit the basalt flow but half the site doesn't have basalt completely screwing your planned foundation.
 
It's been increasing during the last 4 hours. Continuous huge explosions.
4 km2 (3km2 of bananas) and 200 houses destroyed.

 

El Paso, I would guess...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
4 km^2 or 4 sq.km.?

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
Alistair said:
that's cause your Swedish
Was it a joke/comment about Old El Paso Taco dinner?
The Swedes first chose for Friday night dinner the last fifteen years. [lol]
I most have been really tired it just came to mind after I went to bed.

/A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein
 
The new vent is 1km to the north of the main vents.
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Now 2x size covering about 185 structures in aa area of 4 sq km.

Map publishing delays. This is from yesterday.
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I'm going to rescale and post a GE overlay.

Here it is. The elevation Scale is 1.25 reality. Remember, this is yesterday. I wish they were faster making the maps.

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It's interesting to note the shear number of old cinder cones in the area. I count upwards of 30, but I'm sure there are more.
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Tenerife has some 460+/- old craters. Almost as common as rain in geologic time scales.

Word today is that it may be entering an explosive phase. Lifespan estimates range from 20 to 80 days.

300 some structures destroyed.

GE File lava flows, preliminary damage assessments, roads,
infrastructure, contour lines, hydrology

 
Well.. That's not even half of the homes lost in my local area in last year's fire though any number sucks. If that lava ever makes a real run at the ocean that 400 will probably be doubled.

Keith Cress
kcress -
 
Yes. Not the worst total, that's for sure. And no deaths or injuries either. But i'm guessing it might be 1% of the houses on the island.

And about 7500 ppl at least temporarily evacuated from surrounding areas. So it's directly and severely affecting around 10% of the pop.

 
The people that got there houses destroyed, I mean they stil own the land but how was it done before do they build new houses on top of the lava bed or do they need to get new land. [ponder]
I remember your lava rock it wasn't easy to deal with.
And all the roads that are destroyed.
The area that was flooded with lava the last time how does it look today?

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“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein
 
they have issued this now which is tells pilots about the ash.

Fingers crossed the wind stays blowing from the east.

LA PALMA - 2021-09-24 12:53 utc
VA ADVISORY
DTG: 20210924/1253Z
VAAC: TOULOUSE
VOLCANO: LA PALMA 383010
PSN: N2834 W01749
AREA: CANARY ISLANDS
SUMMIT ELEV: 2426M
ADVISORY NR: 2021/23
INFO SOURCE: SAT IMAGERY, VONA, PILOT REPORTS
AVIATION COLOUR CODE: RED
ERUPTION DETAILS:ERUPTION AT 20210919/1410Z WITH ASH EMISSION ONGOING
OBS VA DTG: 24/1300Z
OBS VA CLD: SFC/FL100 N2842 W01754 - N2836 W01741 - N2821 W01656 - N2800 W01654 - N2821 W01806 - N2842 W01754 MOV SW 5KT FL100/170 N2842 W01754 - N2827 W01626 - N2745 W01621 - N2754 W01718 - N2815 W01754 - N2842 W01754 MOV SE 15KT
FCST VA CLD +6 HR: 24/1900Z SFC/FL100 N2842 W01754 - N2842 W01754 - N2833 W01739 - N2818 W01656 - N2757 W01700 - N2821 W01806 - N2842 W01754 FL100/170 N2842 W01754 - N2827 W01603 - N2742 W01611 - N2800 W01724 - N2812 W01754 - N2842 W01754
FCST VA CLD +12 HR: 25/0100Z SFC/FL100 N2842 W01754 - N2842 W01754 - N2833 W01739 - N2818 W01656 - N2757 W01700 - N2821 W01806 - N2842 W01754 FL100/170 N2842 W01754 - N2827 W01603 - N2739 W01611 - N2800 W01724 - N2812 W01754 - N2842 W01754
FCST VA CLD +18 HR: 25/0700Z SFC/FL100 N2842 W01754 - N2842 W01754 - N2833 W01739 - N2818 W01656 - N2757 W01703 - N2821 W01806 - N2842 W01754 FL100/170 N2842 W01754 - N2827 W01603 - N2739 W01611 - N2800 W01724 - N2812 W01754 - N2842 W01754
RMK: UPDATE DUE TO PILOT REPORTS NW AND NE OF LA GOMERA. SIGNIFICANT ASH EMISSSION IN THE VICINITY OF THE VOLCANO BELOW FL100. A SO2 CLOUD IS STILL DRIFTING EASTWARD.
NXT ADVISORY: NO LATER THAN 20210924/1600Z=
VAG (png) VAG (csv)
 
It's coming this way a bit today, but is expected to be on a NE track tomorrow, so that's a miss.
Seems to be the heavies are dropping on Gomera some and the lite ash is passing over us. No Ash on the car yet. Bitter Air is cancelling flights this evening. Holiday makers are advised to cancel all reservations if they are to stay on La Palma. We need the housing.

No. With 1 to 6m of lava on your property, it's totally useless, even if it went around the house. Basically you can't walk on the stuff at all. You have to pole jump from spot to spot. It has extremely rough, sharp and broken surfaces. In contrast, Hawaii's lava is smooth. This is "Ah Ah" lava, cause you say that if you try to walk on it. Seriously it is a Hawaiian technical term. "A-a".

Viscosity is greater than initially thought. It traveled 700m on day 2, 400m on day 3, 100 on 4 and now its almost stopped in its tracks at 4km from source. It was cone building last night from which some lava broke away and is running crawling at 30m/h seemingly to a SW direction.

New vent to the north. More being evacuated.
 
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