Potential Disaster in the Making 10

[phamENG]

Cumbre Vieja, a volcano on La Palma in the Canaries, just erupted a couple of hours ago. National Geographic did an episode on it as part of a 'Disaster Earth' series a few years ago. Essentially, there's evidence of a massive landslide on the island a few hundred millennia ago, the likes of which would have formed a tsunami large enough to hit the east coast of the US. A recent earthquake seems to have restarted the process and formed a large fissure along the island.

Here's to hoping it doesn't move any more....

 

[1503-44]

[Clouds] Assuming it's not steam.

We get a lot of clouds forming right at the top of the lower ridges. We have a rather clean, laminar air flow upstream of the islands. It hits the islands and starts building waves as the wind blows up the slope and over the ridge. Its not the typical vertical lift of warm air that builds mainland cumulus clouds. Here, its the rise up the slope, a drop of temperature as Alistair mentioned, plus the venturi effect. We usually get breezes off the ocean that are at or nearly at 100% humidity, totally saturated, so all it takes to condense the water vapor is just any tiny drop in either temperature, or pressure. Sometimes we see clouds form just as they go over the ridge, without any great change of temperature from one side to the other. No clouds upstream, clouds immediately downstream. I figure there is a low pressure zone on the lee side of the ridge that condenses any water vapor by the pressure reduction and poof, a cloud is formed. I've seen that landing in Dubai and Jeddah, and Houston. Alistair probably has seen it too, although not from the pilot's seat. When you lower the flaps in extremely humid weather, you can see water vapor condensing off the trailing edge. Surely the temperature is roughly the same in front and behind the flaps, so its the pressure change. Those clouds on the ridge there in that picture can also be the initial primary formation of a wave of a series of clouds that often form at regular intervals downstream of a high ridge, especially without other topographic features to introduce turbulence. The clouds will keep their original wave length and form at the same distance interval between them downstream of a ridge and will generall get higher as distance from the ridge increases. Below ridge level, there is often a rotator effect that I mentioned somewhere above was backdrafting the steam from the cascade into the ocean back over the town. And I saw one ISS space shot somewhere of the huge vortex that was being generated by this volcano. So, it is possible that in this case the volcano is the motive force for an uplift, although the prevailing winds will easily drive the air over the top of the ridge by itself. I'm on the north side of Tenerife, so I see the prevailing winds climb up the cliff every day. There's most always clouds forming up at the ridge elevation, only 700-800m high. They rise a bit as the daily temperature goes up, but then come back down during the evening and night. I learned a lot about clouds since I got here! Some nights we get so much condensation, you'd think it really rained. Most of the plants survive here by condensed water from their leaves, or in the case of the Canary Pines, needles. Most of our drinking water is also condensed and collected in volcanic caverns up on the ridge.

All that said, in this video it looks like they are gases escaping from the uphill creater remains of the first cone that melted and went sliding down the mountain.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k6LyK223Uxo

This thing has vents opening, closing and moving all the time. I was curious about this as well and this morning I actually did a plot of all the vents since day 2. It is in the Google Earth file I am attaching. The latest lava flow is from a vent that opened up 400m from the original group, to the NNW.

That new lava stream is flowing more or less parallel to the original stream. I was confused by that myself, as there has not been much flow of technical information in the news channels lately. Everyone wants to know what kind of economic assistance will be made available. Anyway, I found some drone flight videos made yesterday and I was able to determine their flight path as they took footage of the new flows. I have plotted the path of the new flows in the same google earth file in yellow. There are 4 placemarks that should give you the same view of the drone photos at the times indicated. The Youtube URLs for two videos are referenced to the placemarks, double click on the placemarks and you will see the URL. Click on that and it should open to the drone video. Scroll to the time indicated on the placemark.

I think D is something caught fire. Anyway, you can try to compare that location to the vent locations. Its kind of a flat angle, so it won't be easy.

 

[RedSnake]

It look like it's going to break throw here in the white circle.

Yep it's a hole..

And it's getting bigger.

AND BIGGER..

AND EVEN BIGGER..

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[RedSnake]

I wonder if the crater wall on this side will be there tomorrow?

And this ball thing was a bit funny..

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

looking at the better picture I think its steam/some other gas coming out the ground as well now not a normal air lifting/pressure change effect. Although it could be its higher pressure under ground and then expanding as it escapes. So maybe super heated water coming up then turning to wet steam as it expands.

 

[itsmoked]

Hey I got it to upload!
I think 44 and Alistair are correct in that it's jacked air-pressure clouds.

Red that lip of the cone melted and failed about three days ago and completely drained the lava down the hill. By the next day it was "repaired"!

Keith Cress
kcress -

http://www.flaminsystems.com

 

[RedSnake]

Hmm it was on the LIVE feed last night, so if the

https://rtvc.es/en-directo/

Live feed isn't the a Live feed what is it then.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[1503-44]

Could be decompressing CO2, etc.

Entering an explosive phase again.

The main irrigation system was cut by the lava flow. Seems that they are thinking about bringing in a floating desalination and water supply ship to save the banana crop and supply water to the south fields and houses until the water distribution system can be repaired.

Air quality is improving. .

Seismic events over the last 24h continue with several 3.x tremors in the region above the magma supply.

 

[1503-44]

02 10 2021 12:02 UTC
The new vent and its stream are mapped now.

 

[1503-44]

Detail of the 7 vents active yesterday and the flow from the newest vent to the north.
It looks like the view of the clouds above is along a line of sight of all the vents, so I'd say it looks like the vents must be the source of that cloud.

 

[1503-44]

Active vents on and all combined lava flow to 02 10 2021

 

[1503-44]

Local vulcanologist confirms that the clouds are formed from gas emitted from the vents, or their rock piles. These same gases, when prevented from exiting the vents freely by heavy magma build ups, are what cause the dramatic explosions typical of these types of volcanos. "Don't worry. Don't be alarmed. This is a textbook volcano and everything is normal."

 

[RedSnake]

that is good to know.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[itsmoked]

Makes sense now as that smoke would actually be kind of too localized to just be adiabatic cloud.

That would be a lot of fun getting the water to run next to the lava.

Keith Cress
kcress -

http://www.flaminsystems.com

 

[RedSnake]

I found this Live stream on youtube where you can go back 12 hours, and the pictures above is from last night according to this feed but they will soon be gone.

[youtube INvrtMg5tSQ]

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[1503-44]

Pretty large blasts 11.5h ago.

 

[RedSnake]

Must have been after I went to bed then..
My last screen cut 3 Oct 21 00:45 then there wasn't coming any lava it was mostly smoke.
Here much lava has come from the new hole..

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[1503-44]

The whole cone just lit up. This is a zoomed out view. Lavas going all over the place. Yes. Just now rtvc.es reporting that the cone broke.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=INvrtMg5tSQ

 

[RedSnake]

It's about one and a half hour ago, to much smoke so it wasn't easy to see.

It is easier after it gets dark..

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[1503-44]

Well .... it just got a lot worse. They're aaying a large explosion 40m ago and the cone broke 15m after. Whatever happened, its easy to see now, that's for sure.

 

[RedSnake]

Yes it is really spectacular.
And there is someone speaking with someone on the phone I wonder if he knows his being recorded.



“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein