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Wind loads on a small structure?

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SteelPE

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Mar 9, 2006
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I have a structure that is square in shape and relatively slender (12’ square by 70’ tall). I would like to capture the wind loads applied to the structure in each orthogonal and along an axis skewed 45 degrees to the structure. In my computer model I ended up making two separate structures one oriented along the orthogonal axis and the other where I rotated the structure 45 degrees.

When it came time to apply the loads to the skewed structure I used the same loads I had used along the orthogonal axis. I am now questioning if this was the correct approach as the wind load will never actually hit the broad side of the structure.

The possible error was brought to my attention as I was calculating the reactions at the base by hand and realized that my moment at the base was 41% higher along the skewed axis. I thought this was find until I broke out the loads into the footing orthogonal axis and realized I had the full wind applied in both directions at the same time which didn't seem correct to me.

Hopefully my picture will be able to better describe my question.
 
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