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    Position tolerance datums

    Would a simultaneous requirement applied to multiple holes referencing only datum A constrain only the orientation of the holes? I'm not sure how that would also control location of the holes.
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    Position tolerance datums

    PtoMonty, What is the function of the part? If you want to control the location of the 11 mm hole relative to the 9 mm hole, you'd likely be better off keeping your existing datum A and setting the axis of the 9 mm hole as datum B. Then you can control the location of the 11 mm hole without...
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    Does a profile control the overall length of a surface

    I just ran across some articles online that confirm what I thought I heard on this forum recently, that you can only locate features of size with a +/- tolerance. I'm not sure where this example falls. The two opposed surfaces are a feature of size, but the individual surface that you would be...
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    Does a profile control the overall length of a surface

    Assuming ASME and profile of a surface are being used, profile can control the location of the surface, but it doesn't need to. If the distance between A and the parallel surface is located with a +/- tolerance, the +/- tolerance should locate the surface and profile becomes a refinement of...
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    Specifying the orientation of a dimension

    Garland23, it seems that the OP just wants to make sure that the measurement is taken parallel to the long sides. Isn't the original drawing sufficient to express that? GD&T could help, but I'm not sure it's absolutely necessary.
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    Specifying the orientation of a dimension

    Hi MattEdwards, The way the dimension is shown in your picture means that the measurement would be taken from the tip of the radiused portion to the topmost tip of the hole, with the measurement axis being parallel to the dimension line. Therefore, I believe you dimension matches the goal you...
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    Position and orientation of slot

    SDETERS, thanks for the sketch. I see two options: 1. Follow 3DDave's advice and use a hole. 2. Put a tighter position tolerance on the slot. This will constrain the rotation of the slot to the level you determine is acceptable. This will allow you theoretically looser tolerances compared to...
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    Position and orientation of slot

    Can you clarify what you mean when you say, "The slot is rotated 1.5 degrees about the center of the slot?" It sounds contradictory that the center is correctly located, but that the slot is also rotated.
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    Total Runout Greater Than Size Tolerance

    Thank you both for the explanation. The article that greenimi linked led to me trying to formulate the point that pmarc articulated better than I could, that runout controls form and position together in a way that deviations in form take away allowable position deviation, while for a position...
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    Total Runout Greater Than Size Tolerance

    Yes, sorry that I left out the detail that I am asking in reference to ASME Y14.5 2009. I agree that position is an axial control. Since form is not controlled by the runout, how does the distinction between axial control and surface control impact measurement and performance as they relate to...
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    Total Runout Greater Than Size Tolerance

    Hello, I'm encountering an issue on one of my drawings similar to that shown in the picture below (see also this link: https://www.tec-ease.com/gdt-tips-view.php?q=170#:~:text=Although%20changes%20in%20size%20are,the%20runout%20could%20be%20large.) The size tolerance on the shaft is smaller...
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    Locating Timing Pulley Tooth to Keyway

    This background may be helpful. The current dimensioning scheme is based off an angular tolerance with no GD&T applied. Our supplier can't seem to hit the tolerance, and I'm wondering if there is something wrong with our callout. I'm trying to think of a better way to express the fact that...
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    Locating Timing Pulley Tooth to Keyway

    Thanks, Burunduk. My question is more related to the practicality of measuring such a requirement. Is it even valid to reference a centerplane of a timing tooth, since there are no nominally parallel planes from which to derive the centerplane?
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    Composite Profile

    Couldn't Z translation be ignored by leaving datum A out of the feature control frame?
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    Locating Timing Pulley Tooth to Keyway

    I was looking at one of our drawings and we have a drawing for a timing pulley that requires the centerplane of a particular tooth to be aligned to the centerplane of a keyway within 0.5 degrees. Currently, the requirement is that the centerplane of the tooth is aligned to the keyway and not...

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