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leanne

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Dec 12, 2001
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Is comparing medicine to law to engineering is an equivalent or fair comparison? I see these comaprisons in eng-tips frequently.

Let's consider the case of three engineering majors who start undergrad studies together & have formed a study group for the first few years of engineering basics: Alice, Annie, & Adam.

Alice decides to major in civil engineering. Annie decides to go to medical school so she majors in biomechanics engineering. Adam is determined to be a patent attorney & his undergrad major is electrical engineering.

After they split off into the junior & senior level coursework, Alice, Annie & Adam still meet to study & still bounce ideas off each other even while working on different courses.

Four years after they start engineering studies, they graduate. Alice has taken her FE & passed as has Adam. Annie has been accepted into medical school & Adam to law school. Alice is entering the work force with a civil engineering firm following graduation. Annie is taking the summer off. Adam is working for an attorney for the summer.

What do Annie, Alice & Adam need to do to meet the goals they have set?

For Alice to become an RPE:
[ul] [li] Graduate from an ABET accredited 4 year engineering program [li] Pass the EIT during senior year [li] Work under the supervision of an RPE with progressive responsibility for a minimum of 4 years of graduation or EIT/FE (whichever is later) [li] Pass the PE [/ul]
Minimal time to being a professional practicing RPE: 4 years of school plus 4 years of post-grad/EIT work experience assuming one passes the EIT/PE the first time taken as eligible


For Annie to become a doctor:
[ul] [li] Attain the pre-requisites pre-med coursework & credits (typically, an undergrad degree) [li] Pass the MCAT [li] Get accepted into medical school [li] Go to med school & survive the first two years [li] Pass the step one (2 days) of the United States Medical Licensing Examination [li] Continue with YR 3 of med school if USMLE step 1 was passed [li] Take step two of the United States Medical Licensing [li] Examination at the end of YR 3 or during YR 4 [li] Complete YR 4 of med school & graduate [li] Pass the medical board exams [li] Complete 2-6 years of residency program & during that period, take the final step of the USMLE [/ul]
Minimal time to being a professional practicing MD: 4 years of undergraduate school plus 4 years of medical school plus 2-6 years of residency assuming one passes all steps of the USMLE the first time

For Adam to become a lawyer:
[ul][li] Attain the pre-requisites credits & coursework (typically, undergrad degree) [li] Pass the LSAT [li] Get accepted into ABA approved law school [li] Go to law school & graduate from law school [li] Pass the BAR[/ul]
Minimal time to being a professional practicing JD: 4 years of undergraduate school plus 3 years of law school assuming one passes the bar the first time it is offered after graduation

Alice has 3-4 years of wage-earning career-building experience that Annie & Adam do not have during the same time period. Annie & Adam may surpass Alice quickly in wages - unless Annie goes to work as a UNICEF doctor & Adam gets his dream job with the US Patents Office.

Is it really fair to compare being an MD to being a JD to being an RPE?
 
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C'est la vie.
 
When comparing professions, look at pharmacy:
Graduate from an accredited 6 year Pharmacy program
Pass the License Exam
Earn $85,000 your first year

The difficulty part is getting accepted by a Pharmacy school. Pharmacists practice "professional birth control". Unlike engineers, they limit the number of people who graduate from Pharmacy schools and you cannot practice Pharmacy without a license. Maybe engineers aren't as smart as they think and should learn something from other professions.
 

I jumped in here after reading the debate about "Apples & Oranges" My husband is the engineer (PhD) I stumbled across this forum while investigating salaries and have read through the thread with interest. Click the above link and you may discover where the comparison between docotors, lawyers and engineers originated.
 
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