Tesla Autopilot 2

[GregLocock]

I think it's worth breaking out Tesla from Uber, both the hardware and software are different.

So, the second crash of a Tesla into a stationary firetruck looks like more than a coincidence. Even if Autopilot wasn't engaged (the police say it was) Automateic Emergency Braking should have stopped this.

From tesla's website

Standard Safety Features
These active safety technologies, including collision avoidance and automatic emergency braking, have begun rolling out through over-the-air updates

Automatic Emergency Braking

Designed to detect objects that the car may impact and applies the brakes accordingly


Side Collision Warning

Warns the driver of potential collisions with obstacles alongside the car


Front Collision Warning

Helps warn of impending collisions with slower moving or stationary cars

So questions that need to be asked, are which of these were fitted to the crash vehicle? AEB is widely available on other cars, but according to Tesla forums it is possible that it was remotely disabled. According to one user you can set AEB to warn only. That is bizarre choice of UI design.

Anyway, I think so far there have been three AP collisions with large objects on the road in front of the car in good viewing conditions, the idiot with the truck crossing the road, and two fire trucks.


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[BridgeSmith]

"Is this going to continue to encourage drivers to switch their brains off?"

Of course it will. In particular, at the point where the car is doing the steering, the human behind the wheel becomes a passenger and cannot be expected to to be alert and aware, so as to be ready to take over driving with split-second notice.

 

[IRstuff]

Tesla does not sell their car based on a technical SAE "level;" they sell an "Autopilot." My previous comments refer to the SAE definitions as not being useful for normal consumers to understand. The consumers obvious understand "Autopilot" to be something that allows them to watch videos or nap during driving, which it isn't, again, confirming that anything between Level 1 and Level 4 cannot be marketed to an audience that can't understand the technical differences, at least, not without a significant increase in education. Levels 2 and 3 are basically TLDR for the consumer and they hear only what they want to hear.

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[LionelHutz]

So you do agree with my previous point then?

 

[CCW1]

can someone give a review on the eng-tips smart car white paper advertisement that just hit my inbox.
looks interesting.

 

[GregLocock]

Review: blah blah keyword blah blah meme blah blah tenuous link blah big ad.

I don't know enough about PLM to decide whether it is an important part of AV deployment. This paper didn't convince me that I was missing out on anything. I should add that only I do tiny amounts of work for the Driver Assistance Technology people, most of my interest comes about from trajectory estimation, world building, and computer vision. They are very interesting to me but not even slightly part of my work. I do write software, but it never gets near a production vehicle, so I have no idea how the production code process works with safety critical items. I have worked on code similar to that which would end up in production vehicles, but it wasn't safety related, and it was a long time ago in dog, or internet, years.

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