Texas power issues. Wind farms getting iced up (Part II)... 38

[dik]

Doesn't it bother anyone that there is so much wrong here that no one is addressing? This unbridled capitalism has cost numerous lives.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[davidbeach]

But that's the Texas way.

I’ll see your silver lining and raise you two black clouds. - Protection Operations

 

[JohnRBaker]

Case in point, April 17, 2013 in West, Texas (look it up).

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[dik]

If they are too stupid to realise that things are wrong, this choice should be taken from them. You don't let kids play with chainsaws.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[dik]

We had a worse tragedy at the turn of the last century in Halifax... again, same end result.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[Fischstabchen]

Dik,

if it was unbridled capitalism that was responsible for deaths, why did regulated regions have blackouts and fatalities? Can you also tell me what unbridled capitalism is?

JohnRBaker,

Do you know the result of the investigation into the fertilizer plant explosion you referenced?

"In 2016, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives announced the fire that caused the West Fertilizer Plant Explosion was set intentionally, and there was a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of the person or people responsible.

The ATF came to that conclusion after more than 400 interviews and scientific testing at the bureau's Fire Research Laboratory in Maryland."

https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/n...lant-explosion-five-years-later/500-540247815

 

[dik]

No need to be obtuse... other areas suffer from a similar fatal flaw, and not anywhere near the number of fatalities, deregulation of life threatening issues should not exist... take a gander at Texas... where those in charge are stating that they will help the protagonists to maintain their ill gotten gains. I would suggest that this was unbridled capitalism.

As I noted before... they should be SAPO'd.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[1503-44]

Fisch, why did you open that can of worms. Oh... It was JohnRBaker. Don't double down on that.
The problem with the West fertiliser incident is not how it happened, or who done it. The problem is that massive quantity of explosives were stored at the center of town.
YES, JUST LIKE BERUIT LEBANON.
In Lebanon, the government resigned.
In TX, nobody resigned...business as usual.
Results?

West, TX Aftermath
Furthermore the West problem has not been fixed. Trump rolled back the new regulations that would have improved chemical safety across the country, 13 of 19 recommendations of CSB investigation were ignored.

https://www.csb.gov/west-fertilizer-explosion-and-fire-/

Still there are Questions
There are still unanswered questions about ATF's investigation in last months story from TX Public Radio.

https://www.keranews.org/news/2021-...t-of-the-2013-explosion-in-city-of-west-texas

AND ... THE WORST IS
After the explosion, then-Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott <yes, he is now Govenor> began writing opinions that allowed the state to deny open records requests for ammonium nitrate facilities. The current AG, Ken Paxton, has continued this practice. The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality said there are 33 sites in Texas today, but denied TPR’s records request for more information on where they are and who operates them.

It would not surprise me in the least if they are using "security against terrorism" and "data protection" as their excuses to keep the nitrate warehouse locations hidden. Widely used tactics to keep the sheets on the bed.
We have meet the enemy and he is us.


Eng-Tips needs to keep that thread OPEN. Where did it go? I can't find it.

 

[1503-44]

ERCOT admits errors... of the software kind.
17 March

http://www.energychoicematters.com/stories/20210317ab.html[/URL]]
ERCOT has discovered that its Market Management System (MMS) software contained programming errors that resulted in an incorrect MW amount being used for the estimated deployed ERS component of the RTORDPA for certain Security-Constrained Economic Dispatch (SCED) intervals on OD February 15, 2021."

But I'm not sure which way those revisions will go. Kinda sounds like .. Idonno

 

[JohnRBaker]

Fischstabchen, my comment about West, Texas had NOTHING to do with the cause of the explosion but rather the fact that Texas zoning laws, or I should say the lack there of, allowed a fertilizer plant, which was known to be storing potentially explosive materials, to coexist next to a school and a nursing home. As was the case in Houston, and suburbs like Katy, where the non-existent zoning laws allowed both commercial and residential development on bottom lands that was known to flood on a regular basis, like what happened after Hurricane Harvey.

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[cranky108]

Zoning laws are a can of worms in themselves, and are of a concern.

I have seen laws that don't allow a bar to be within some distance of a school. But miss applied where a school district had purchased land, years ago for some future project. A person wanted to build a bar, but was turned down because the school district owned the land that was too close.

To me the same law should be applied that would turned down a school to be built if it were too close to a bar. Who ever builds first should be allowed.

So the zoning is a problem and subjective.

 

[Fischstabchen]

Dik,

Locking prices at their max was not capitalism. It was ill thought out regulation. Like I said earlier, the markets were only clearing at $1,500 before mandate by the PUC for them to be the max.

 

[dik]

The problem is systemic...

@Fisch... I'm not going to get into semantics... regulation being set up by the capitalists...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[1503-44]

North Dakota was paying attention.

https://www.naturalgasintel.com/north-dakota-split-on-federal-pause-for-oil-gas-permitting/[/URL]]Meanwhile, North Dakota lawmakers are weighing in on gas capture and electricity reliability, particularly in the oilfields. Proposed legislation is moving forward including state Senate Bill (SB) 2065 that deals with permitting and legal processes for developing storage for natural gas, propane, hydrogen, and natural gas liquids.

“They are looking for a solution to the situation Texas faced last month by using natural gas storage supplies that will be shifted from heating to electric generation,” Helms said. “That’s an important policy piece.”

State House Bill 1452 would establish a Clean Stable Energy Authority. In addition, SB 2014 proposes funding for studies on gas storage to enhance the state’s ability to develop a petrochemicals industry. The key is to have more storage to increase statewide reliability in the face of a super freeze like Texas experienced,

 

[dik]

Their climate necessitates that... parts of ND can have Texas weather for several months each year...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[JohnRBaker]

And some of those months are NOT always found in that section of the calendar generally associated with Winter ;-)

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[1503-44]

This bit is troublesome. “They are looking for a solution to the situation Texas faced last month by using natural gas storage supplies that will be shifted from heating to electric generation,” Helms said. “That’s an important policy piece.”

I would change "shifted" to "shared". Shifted implies going without heating and that was a TX problem. Unless they are sure heating can indeed be turned off. I doubt they would be able to identify those, or operate that scheme with confidence, as it seems that in TX, electricity going to gas treating was cut. In which case a separate storage for electric gen would be more prudent and easier to operate when you are up to you're a$$ in frozen alligators and nobody's got a match.

The Dakota gas production chart shows they also had a significant gas problem, but apparently without such a big domino effect into electric power gen.

https://e8ca3vmtat3.exactdn.com/wp-...sin-20210127-v2-1.png?strip=all&lossy=1&ssl=1

 

[dik]

I know... I live 100 miles north of them... almost just like here...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[JohnRBaker]

Yes, I went to school (in the UP of Michigan) where we consider Minneapolis as a large SOUTHERN city ;-)

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[1503-44]

For you Huskies, Marquette is a southern city.