Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part IX 10

[dik]

thread1618-496010:
thread1618-496614:
thread1618-497017:
thread1618-497239:
thread1618-497988:
thread1618-498967:
thread1618-501135:
thread1618-504850:


-----*****-----
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

I've wondered how banks and insurance companies are dealing with the possibility of climate change. I've had some interesting dealings with SF, regarding building collapses, and I'm not surprised it seems to be initiated by them. It seems to be catching on.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/allstate-insurance-state-farm-california/

Like Katrina... damage caused by climate change will be cumulative, I suspect. Poorly maintained facilities with be 'harder hit'.

-----*****-----
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

SF needs to worry about earthquakes before climate change.

The reasons Allstate and State Farm are no longer issuing new policies in California is due to construction costs. It costs too much to rebuild in California. It has nothing to do with climate change.

 

[dik]

That too... Climate change may be closer on the horizon. I keep wondering about Millennium Tower... and the potential for it to topple over due to quicking. it could be an interesting summer and fall. We'll have to see what ENSO brings this year...

-----*****-----
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

Trade and commerce... it could get a lot more interesting.

"The dramatic shift, which was on display at meetings between U.S. and EU officials in Sweden this week, means that issues like climate and tech will grow more intertwined with trade, making cooperation more challenging as each side competes with an outdated rulebook."

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/03/us-europe-china-trade-00099954

-----*****-----
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[SwinnyGG]

I challenge you to post some piece of relevant information without using any of the following words:

may
could
might
wonder
wondering
possibly
possibility
probability
potential
potentially
likely
suspect
appear
appears
bit
smidge

bonus points will be awarded for any post completed without the use of the 'smiley smoking a cigarette' emoji

 

[dik]

Sorry Swinny... I can't. It's not written in stone, it just a real possibility. We'll have to wait and see what the outcome is. Even statistics does not often deal in absolutes... just a degree of certainty. I cannot even provide you with that. Challenging the certainty only detracts from the possible outcome... a bit of a red herring IMHO.

-----*****-----
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

You forgot this:

 

[dik]

Happy?

-----*****-----
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

Reparations, if they happen will be interesting.

"Calculating the amount companies owe for causing global warming"

https://phys.org/news/2023-05-amount-companies-owe-global.html

-----*****-----
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away... this has to have an impact on people, somewhere. (for tug)

"Some of the world's most important freshwater sources lost water at a cumulative rate of around 22 gigatonnes per year for nearly three decades. That's about 17 times the volume of Lake Mead, the United States' largest reservoir."

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/e...-worlds-large-lakes-are-drying-up-study-finds

-----*****-----
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[BridgeSmith]

You know what's conspicuously missing from that article (unless I missed it), dik? The percentage reduction. Nothing like a little sensationalism to start off the morning "More than half..." Ok, 53% is slightly more than half, but that's not far off of saying half of the population is below average intelligence. "are drying up". Ok, by how much?

So, let's put it in perspective, shall we? I mean, 22 gigatonnes per year for 30 years sounds like a alot, but is it really, in grand scale of all the fresh water on Earth? Well, according to the USGS, there are 104,590 cubic kilometers of fresh water in streams, lakes, and swamps. That's (not coincidentally) 104,590 gigatonnes of water. So, the 660 gigatonnes supposedly lost from the largest lakes and reservoirs over the last 30 years amounts to a staggering 0.63%.

Btw, if you look at the link, you'll also notice that the 104,590 gigatonnes is only 0.4% of the fresh water contained in the polar ice caps. That means we're down by 0.0025% of our fresh water. Doesn't seem so dire, now does it?

 

[dik]

quibble... just a distraction. It's a bit of a problem, but to me, it's a 'bunch', even if it's only 45%.

-----*****-----
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[BridgeSmith]

but to me, it's a 'bunch', even if it's only 45%.

You're missing the point. Approximately half of the lakes, reservoirs, etc. they looked at had reductions averaging less than 2% of their volume. Assuming it's even possible to accurately measure that small of a change, it's still inconsequential.

 

[dik]

but cumulative... and we don't know where this is going. Just take a gander at what's become the the 'Grand Canyon'... extreme weather may be on the way... either parched or flooding... we just don't know.

-----*****-----
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[hokie66]

Ignorance is no reason to blow up the world's economy. Perhaps if we did know, but "we just don't know".

 

[TugboatEng]

Also the water isn't gone. It might just be somewhere else. Water can't be in ice and in lakes and in aquifers at the same time. Currently, in California there is a lot of water stored in snow in the mountains. By the end of this year much that water will be in lakes.

 

[dik]

Not only is the temperature likely going up, but it appears the CO[sub]2[/sub] is also. This is not really a good sign, IMHO. from Forbes

"TOPLINE
Atmospheric carbon dioxide levels reached an all-time record high last month, after growing at one of the fastest rates on record, according to a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration report published Monday—a dismal indication as scientists warn the devastating effects of climate change will continue to escalate and wreak havoc on the planet.

KEY FACTS
Carbon dioxide levels recorded at NOAA’s Mauna Loa Atmospheric Baseline Observatory in Hawaii reached nearly 424 parts per million in May, up from 421 parts per million in May 2022—annual CO2 levels in the Northern Hemisphere peak in May.

The rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide is the fourth-biggest yearly increase on record, according to scientists from NOAA and the University of California San Diego Scripps Institution of Oceanography—marking an unwanted increase as scientists aim to plateau CO2 levels.

Levels as high as 420 to 425 parts per million are more than 50% higher than the pre-industrial era, and continue to rise even as countries work to reduce fossil fuel emissions in hopes of meeting the goal laid out in the 2015 Paris Climate Agreement of limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels by the end of the century.

KEY BACKGROUND
Scientists have warned for decades fossil fuel emissions need to be limited to stave off deadly impacts of climate change. That’s because rising carbon dioxide levels—which come from burning fossil fuels primarily for transportation and electricity—trap heat in the atmosphere that would otherwise escape, an Earth-warming effect that prolongs droughts and heat waves and causes more intense wildfires and storms. United Nations scientists warned in March the world is “on thin ice” as the global temperature approaches the critical 1.5 degree Celsius estimated to be the maximum temperature increase to avoid more deadly and catastrophic droughts, heat waves, storms and sea-level rise. U.N. scientists had also warned in October greenhouse gas emissions will rise 10% above 2010 levels by 2030 when they desperately need to drop.

TANGENT
State and federal lawmakers have sought to impose stricter limits on emissions and earmarked billions of dollars for climate change mitigation in recent years, but many companies and GOP lawmakers have slammed those measures, arguing they hurt coal, natural gas and oil production. A group of Republican lawmakers last summer heavily criticized a $370 billion measure in the federal Inflation Reduction Act to tackle climate change, including Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), who accused Democrats of “sacrificing American families at the altar of climate change."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianb...high-and-are-growing-rapidly/?sh=7c723e0e5e05

-----*****-----
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

Californians may hate to hear this, but there are places in the world other than California. With possible increased precipitation, they could be in for a 'whole pile' of different 'hurt'.

-----*****-----
So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[GregLocock]

All that money sent to China and the CO2 continues to rise.

Cheers

Greg Locock


New here? Try reading these, they might help FAQ731-376

http://eng-tips.com/market.cfm?

 

[SnTMan]

Unexpectedly

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand