Petrolem Pipeline Hack 7

[hacksaw]

How can a modern system, like this be hacked? Do they need to go back to pneumatic controls?

 

[1503-44]

How does that go ..payback are . a..

Nice conspiracy theory. I like it! Fits perfectly.

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[phamENG]

So I just had to run a couple errands...Southeast Virginia has gone nuts, too. The line at the gas station was probably the better part of 45 minutes long...

 

[byrdj]

you mean like the lines forming around Raleigh NC

https://www.wral.com/drivers-line-u...o-days-in-wake-of-pipeline-shutdown/19672610/

 

[phamENG]

I wonder how many of those people are sitting there with their cars running and AC blasting...just burning gas for no good reason. (I realize it's not much, but I still find it funny...)

 

[JohnRBaker]

I turn off my car (and roll down the windows) when I'm waiting in line to fill-up at Costco, which BTW, when I filled-up yesterday, they had not raised prices from about 10 days ago. Granted, here in SoCal, gas prices are already high (I paid $3.759/gal for regular).

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[1503-44]

Almost exactly = $1/liter.

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[NOLAscience]

As in a monthly pee in the bottle, so that's a good thing, right?

I have no problem with drug testing, but they also want to verify that you have a healthy blood pressure. Only, once they decide that they need to prevent truck driver strokes, they go too far and write the regs to require near-perfect health to pass the test. Typical American overdiagnosis of problems.

 

[NOLAscience]

like the lines forming around Raleigh NC

How about pay 5 cents a gallon more and buy gas elsewhere, not Costco?

 

[JohnRBaker]

Here in SoCal, the difference between the price of gas at Costco versus a normal brand name station is approximately 50 cents a gallon.

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[phamENG]

How about pay 5 cents a gallon more and buy gas elsewhere, not Costco?

Well...since you have to have a membership to buy from Costco...I imagine the other gas stations have even longer lines. The 7-11 near me was in a similar state this afternoon, and I live in an exurban, almost rural area.

 

[NOLAscience]

Sorry, I was being a little flippant. And the difference is currently 0.20 a gallon here.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Nice conspiracy theory. I like it! Fits perfectly.

It could be the other way round and home grown and its linked to keystone getting cancelled.

 

[TugboatEng]

Homegrown works. The Trump admin delayed the Nordstream pipeline. It seems the Biden admin is allowing it to complete. I don't see any reason Russia would be involved today.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

They are not allowing it to complete but it will be completed anyway.

There is a raft of western Companies getting hit with sanctions and they have just been ramped up. Russia is completing it using Kaliningrad and St Petersburg as bases with 2 Russian pipe layers.

Apart from blowing it up they won't stop it I suspect. Although quiet how they expect everyone to walk away from a 2 billion dollar project with only 5% left to complete is anyone's guess.

 

[1503-44]

I think its more like $8B, no. And it is basically Germany and Austria that will have to walk away from that money, as they are the key investors in the project. Plus it will inflate the cost of future gas purchases they planned to make for the coming 20 years and give them no choice, but to buy from an even more insecure source than Russia. Trump has taught the EU, that policy can always revert to "America First" at the rise of a single red hat.

The proposals and initial calls for sanctions, as I recall, were begun during Obama administration by the same Texas senators that are still behind it today. Unfortunately for German-Austrian interests, the sanction song plays well in the US and Democrats are dancing along with the rest listening to the words, more export sales, more jobs, more taxes while ignoring potential damage to foreign relations with friendly allies and not mentioning the fact that domestic gas prices are rising when they should normally be falling during spring slack time, supported entirely be gas purchased for the blooming export market. So Americans will also pay the price for the sanction policy ... one way or another. And Ukraine will finally get the $300M they were expecting from Trump, to calm their potentially lost revenue from gas transport fees from Russia, but this time they won't have to send any dirt in return.



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[FacEngrPE]

The presence of a software component is somewhat confirmed. Details are missing.
Colonial Pipeline using vulnerable, outdated version of Microsoft Exchange: report, Pipeline operators were warned about potential attacks in 2020; By Brittany De Lea FOX Business

 

[1503-44]

So, the FBI somehow missed cleaning up MS Exchange Server's vulnerability? They did as many as they could, without even obtaining a court order to invade company systems to do it. (I'm not particularly saying that's bad in these cases. They are supposed to protect and serve. What I'm saying is that MS is selling crap works with errors that they won't fix on their own and the public is paying the price.) How did they miss Colonial?

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[LittleInch]

Well there is system vulnerability and there's also the VPN connections into the servers using easily guessed e-mail addresses and possibly passwords.

Then I would imagine it's easy to fiddle around with things, especially if you discover one of the administrators is now working from home and remoting in all the time. Sometimes the passwords the admin staff use are the simplest of the lot to crack...

There was something in that tweet about the fact they didn't have two factor authorisation, but that can be hacked as well or amended.

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[1503-44]

Yes, in a lot of cases they are not so much hacking the systems as they are the people running them.

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[moon161]

Work locked down a lot of things after some sites were shut down over the same thing- ransomware. Things used to be easy going but now locked up tight, and training on the sorts of social engineering people use to get you to open stuff or disclose information.