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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part IX 10

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dik

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
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The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand
 
As building density is increased so is the need for air conditioning. This is not related to an increase in temperature.
 
I haven't done any sums on it, but I suspect apartment buildings are/can be more energy efficient than individual homes, due to an economy of scale and the large number of 'interior' walls that would normally be exterior and a common roof. If this is the case, there may be more of this in future.

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-Dik
 
Yeah, dik, that reminds me of something I read a while ago:

Welcome To 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy And Life Has Never Been Better

Ida Auken said:
Welcome to the year 2030. Welcome to my city - or should I say, "our city." I don't own anything. I don't own a car. I don't own a house. I don't own any appliances or any clothes.

It might seem odd to you, but it makes perfect sense for us in this city. Everything you considered a product, has now become a service. We have access to transportation, accommodation, food and all the things we need in our daily lives. One by one all these things became free, so it ended up not making sense for us to own much.

I don't think we're going to get there, and if it does, I hope it's not in my lifetime.

Actually, if we don't stop using fossil fuels in the next 12 days, we'll reach the tipping point where it will to too late to do anything about climate change. Greta Thunberg said so.
 
dik said:
I suspect apartment buildings are/can be more energy efficient than individual homes

Speaking in generalities - because building age is a major factor in energy consumption per capita for both single family and multi-family structures - multi family structures are MUCH more energy efficient from a consumption per household or consumption per capita standpoint. It is not particularly close, even give that there's quite a lot of old multi-family building stock in the US.
 
I dont doubt that multi families can be more efficient but would be curious to see a study of actual usage from an unbiased entity. IME regardless if they're condos or apartment complexes, building management tends not to care as much about being energy efficient bc the individual occupants are usually the ones paying the utility bills so the emphasis is more on cost than on using quality materials and methods.
 

Yes... and our original house that was constructed in about 1913 had 2x4@16 studs and the wood chip insulation was located in the bottom 2' of the walls... All new construction should be brought up to current energy standards, or better. This applies to single unit housing and/or high rise apartments. Every effort has to be made to minimise heat loss, in particular through doors and glazing.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
More possible events... we didn't need those pesky aardvarks, anyway.

"A trio of macro-biologists and life scientists, two with Queen's University Belfast and the third with Czech University of Life Sciences Prague, has found that the modern "sixth mass extinction" event is going to be even worse than prior research has shown.

In their study, reported in the journal Biological Reviews, Catherine Finn, Daniel Pincheira-Donoso and Florencia Grattarola, analyzed population trend data for more than 71,000 animal species to learn more about declines.

Over the past several decades, it has become clear that global biodiversity has been declining due to human activities including conversion of habitat, use of pesticides and herbicides and more recently, climate change. It is not known how many species are extinct due to such activities, but scientists have been trying to track species at highest risk of disappearing."


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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
I have experienced this. The denser the human population the lower the biodiversity of the region. In large metropolitan areas it seems the only animals that thrive are the scavengers. These include the rats, pigeons, seagulls, flies, and drug addicts.
 
...and from 1965:

"In a report from 1965, scientists from the US government warned that our ongoing use of fossil fuels would cause global warming with potentially disastrous consequences for Earth’s climate. The report, one of the first government-produced documents to predict a major crisis caused by humanity’s large-scale activities, noted that the likely consequences would include higher global temperatures, the melting of the ice caps and rising sea levels. ‘Through his worldwide industrial civilisation,’ the report concluded, ‘Man is unwittingly conducting a vast geophysical experiment’ – an experiment with a highly uncertain outcome, but clear and important risks for life on Earth."


I first heard about global warming from a series of tapes on cybernetics prepared by Dr. Ken McLachlan of the University of Southampton, UK, that he had prepared in the mid sixties. He mentioned the term that we may 'already be on that slippery slope'. When I asked him what he meant, he explained.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 

I think the next couple of years will be interesting... it may give an inkling about the possible rapid rate of change in the weather as a harbinger to the future.


In Winnipeg, you could freeze your thingamagiggers off... and in Florida, you would likely get thrown in jail.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
With respect to insurance, from Bloomberg:

"As escalating catastrophes take a toll on profitability, insurance companies are getting better at looking forward. The results aren’t pretty."


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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
@Tug... there's a question on a thread thread770-507717 that you may not frequent, but you may be able to answer... thanks...

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
Paywalled. Price of insurance is linked to the cost of rebuilding, and the riskiness of any individual site. Modern people have a penchant for building more expensive houses often in forests or floodplains. And of course it does the insurance industry no harm to announce that its getting worse... prepares the punters for sticker shock.

Cheers

Greg Locock


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The wealthy are responsible for a larger part of climate change. Even though they lose more money, will suffer far less than those that are less well off (aka the poor).

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
Yes, and your bar chart indicates that fewer people are dying, and the people that are dying have more stuff. I don't see either trend as bad.

Meanwhile the net profitability of USA P&C insurance companies hovers around 9%.
Net profit after tax/net premiums written.

I wish I was working in an industry where that was the norm.



Cheers

Greg Locock


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The reduction in deaths is likely a result of better advanced notification of serious climate events.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
So we should focus on adaptations and forget about trying to change the weather?
 
For added info about fatalities...


The problem is Tug, that we don't know where this event will stop, and what the end conditions will be. It may reach a point where you can no longer adapt, or at least reasonably.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
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