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Things are Starting to Heat Up Part VI 10

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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Engineers using the first FEMs thought they were being very careful and diligent and were (at times) mislead by believing their own results.

It seems very odd to me that you select three nations as having a "real vested interest" when this issue (by your statements) is an existential threat to everyone, a truly global issue.

From my own reading on the topic there are clearly many well intentioned researchers. There are also some less well intentioned. Then there are the charlatans and the "click bait" fishermen. These groups are to be found on both sides of the debateargumentcontradiction.

"Hoffen wir mal, dass alles gut geht !"
General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.
 
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well, they haven't included the dailies from this year, which is running cool, but even Blind Freddy can see the last 7 years on that plot have a falling trend.
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If this is accurate, it seems we only have one option. Back to our previous playbook. Increased CO2 is going to cause another ice age!
 
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Looking at both WHO and CDC definitions of infant mortality posted here, they both start at conception. Do they count abortions in those totals? Or do they retroactively become non infants and not counted?
 
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rb1957 said:
It seems very odd to me that you select three nations as having a "real vested interest" when this issue (by your statements) is an existential threat to everyone, a truly global issue.
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I believe he's mentioning those three nations in reference to the infant mortality non sequitur - not climate.

Doesn't change the fact that the infant mortality data is a non-equal comparison of values. Period. End of story. To continue to stand on that ground is farcical.

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From my own reading on the topic there are clearly many well intentioned researchers. There are also some less well intentioned. Then there are the charlatans and the "click bait" fishermen. These groups are to be found on both sides of the debateargument.
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The fact which none of the major ink-spillers seem to be willing to acknowledge in this thread.
 
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Canada plans? on addressing the carbon footprint from the manufacture of cement (Countries are not often successful with their intentions):


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Eh, now they're just playing on the irrational fears of the face maskers. Very few bacteria are actually harmful, many are quite beneficial.
 
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I agree... and some can kill you. You never know what's floating around out there. [pipe]

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These bacteria were not world ending before they were frozen, why should they be world ending now?
 
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Maybe we were tougher back then... I dunno, and I don't know what damage they did back then... there's nothing like more ingredients in the primordial bacteria stew. At very least, they cannot be good for you. [pipe]

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At very least, they cannot be good for you.
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This is very wrong. Most bacteria are harmless. Some are beneficial. Few are harmful. Odds are that they will be anything but not good for you.

Again, they're playing on your post pandemic fears.
 
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Corrected... "At very least, they may not be good for you."

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This thread needs to die.

You two are never going to agree. I don't understand how you can both continue to piss up this rope.
 
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were humans around when the permafrost froze ? (IDK)

why would we (today) have immunity to these ancient viruses/bacteria ?

what happened to the indigenous peoples of the "new world" when people from the "old world" came to "visit" them ? they exchanged viruses and many people died (as both populations encountered "new" viruses).

"Hoffen wir mal, dass alles gut geht !"
General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.
 
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Even if the freezing predates humans, we have inherited immunity from our ancestors.


If there was reason to believe there was something scary lurking down there wouldn't you expect to see more bio-security around such operation as ice core sampling? Or is the article just an example of science fiction?
 
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"we have inherited immunity from our ancestors" ... really ?

immunity from viruses our ancestors were never exposed to ? (if freezing of the permafrost predates humans)

and even if it didn't how do you explain what happened after the Spanish discovered the new world and the two populations, separated for thousands of years, mixed ? (ie mixed new viruses with each other).

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General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.
 
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The sharing was mostly one way...

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Exactly, explorers brought new viruses and bacterias. These viruses in the ice are ancient. Our ancestors most likely have been exposed to them or they don't infect our ancestors. That includes our pre-human ancestors. Remember, the human race has one or two originations and spread from there. If that is the case, we have lots of common immunity.

There seems to be a lens of negativity applied to all of todays problems. The truth is, we'll probably be fine.
 
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