Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part VII 21

[dik]

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[BridgeSmith]

if something is harmful, then the use of it should be controlled and regulated.

The key word there is "if". We haven't established that global temperatures will go up, and if they do go up, on the whole, it will be harmful to humans or the planet.

It's been shown mathematically that adapting to climate change, whatever direction it goes, will be far less expensive than the measures proposed to stop the Earth from warming. Why would we spend more on attempted prevention of something that may not happen, rather than dealing with the realities and challenges as they present themselves, so that we know what we need to do.

Rod Smith, P.E., The artist formerly known as HotRod10

 

[hokie66]

You admit it, you have no idea.

BridgeSmith is correct. Interfering with the free market inevitably causes unforeseen consequences.

 

[JoshPlumSE]

I'm saying that's an unproven assumption, and as such, we shouldn't be interfering in the free market price of any energy sources.

That's fair enough. That's your belief. I think there are plenty of us who are more concerned about this issue. Therefore, at this point, it's a matter of public and political opinion. If enough of us have a similar belief they we will take some actions. I just hope they are rational and reasonable actions and not "green new deal" type actions.

 

[JoshPlumSE]

It's been shown mathematically that adapting to climate change, whatever direction it goes, will be far less expensive than the measures proposed to stop the Earth from warming.

Do you have a reference for this?

Note: I tend to agree that "mitigation" measures for the problems that do occur are a lot more efficient than trying to stop a nebulous event or action from occurring. However, there are certainly some lower cost actions that we can take today (and that we are already taking today) that we should continue in the hopes of avoiding the worst aspects of global warming.

 

[dik]

I think we are beyond the 'if' stage... it's just a matter of finding out what the end result will be, and if we can mitigate it.

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[dik]

Hokie... you forgot to read to the end of the sentence, "I have no idea of how extreme climate change can be."

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[GregLocock]

Given that there is now a climate change attribution group who have taken it upon themselves to generate a sciency sounding link between any newsworthy weather event and climate change you can look forward to many more headlines designed to make little girls wet their pants.

Cheers

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[SkipVought]

"...headlines designed to make little girls wet their pants"

A la Paul R. Ehrlich types over the past 70 years. Play it again, Sam. Just plug in the current hysteria to generate fear. The "experts" are on the dole with grants so they will parrot the party line and hockey stick the model outputs.

Mean while, Gore, Obama and Kerry build mansions on the sea shore that the "experts" are warning will be flooded in 7 years from the ice caps melting due to warming caused by burning FFs and farting cows.

The emperor has no clothes!

Skip,

_{Just traded in my OLD subtlety...
for a NUance!}

 

[dik]

...and, as we have observed, laissez faire capitalism may have a similar effect.



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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[TugboatEng]

Real lassez-faire capitalism has never been tried.

 

[TugboatEng]

My parents live in Santa Cruz. The storms were so bad their dog enjoyed the aftermath.

The storm was so bad the President of the United States required a visit. The beach had to be steamrolled. Did they file an EIR?

 

[BridgeSmith]

It's nice that with all the work they need to do, they had time to make that beach nice and smooth, so POTUS wouldn't trip during his useless the photo op.

Rod Smith, P.E., The artist formerly known as HotRod10

 

[dik]

...and down under, too.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64440319

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[GregLocock]

Weather. The longer you record a random signal the bigger the extremes. This is of course high school maths.

Cheers

Greg Locock


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[dik]

...and as the number of buildings you design increases, the greater chance for a collapse. Funny how these extraordinary events seem to occur more and more often. I was thinking it was just an improvement on measuring things, but I'm not so sure anymore.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[CWB1]

Dam, we made it eight days. I wouldn't have guessed it'd be that long. I owe myself a paczki.

 

[dik]

The real concerns about climate change:

https://euroweeklynews.com/2023/01/30/climate-change-threatens-prized-jamon-iberico-from-spain/

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[JoshPlumSE]

In "Stupid Global Warming News":

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/30/world/global-warming-critical-threshold-climate-intl/index.html

TLDR Summary: A study used artificial neural networks – a type of machine learning or artificial intelligence – to predict when the world would hit 1.5 or 2.0 degrees Celsius over pre-industrial levels.

 

[TugboatEng]

I wonder what the CO2 footprint of this thread is?

 

[dik]

It shows where the 'real' concerns are... sad...

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik