Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part VIII 9

[dik]

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[BridgeSmith]

Potential effects of Arctic warming:

https://phys.org/news/2023-04-arctic-extreme-winte...

I tried to read it, but I couldn't get past the first sentence without spewing my hot cocoa all over the keyboard:

Pictures of melting glaciers and stranded polar bears on shrinking sea ice in the Arctic are perhaps the most striking images that have been used to highlights the effects of global warming.

Polar bears "stranded"? Give me a break! In case anyone is unaware, polar bears regularly swim up to 200 miles in the open ocean, and some have been known to swim all the way to Greenland (a 500 mile swim). Btw, the polar bear in the famous (or maybe infamous?) picture referenced was only about 200 yards offshore.

Sorry, when they start off with something that horrendously wrong, there's no reason to waste time on it.

 

[dik]

It's the loss of the sea ice and their manner of catching food that's the problem. They can swim incredible distances, for sure... but, it's tricky catching seals that way. Also, when they are malnourished, their reproduction rate suffers badly. They are at risk from climate change.

https://www.arcticwwf.org/wildlife/polar-bear/polar-bear-threats/

That's what they look like in the wild...

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[SwinnyGG]

So... they look like polar bears?

 

[SkipVought]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/t...p&cvid=5e7f8ae95b494bffa01c38a809aade1d&ei=65

"At the end of the last ice age, parts of an enormous ice sheet covering Eurasia retreated up to a startling 2,000 feet per day — more than the length of the Empire State Building, according to a study released Wednesday."

Hmmmm? No evil, man-made, capitalistic, environmental, greenhouse generating Homo sapiens with gas guzzling inventions, for comfort, travel, exploration and the betterment of mankind over 15,000 years ago???

Watch! The hand never leaves the wrist!

Skip,
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Just traded in my OLD subtlety...
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[dik]

... and they are not cute and cuddly... they are top of the food chain, up there, and everything is food to them.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[rb1957]

"CO2 has zero to do with the weather slash climate" ... I think this statement is just as wrong as "CO2 has everything to do with weather/climate change".

CO2 is (IMHO) one of the ways mankind is interacting (interrupting?) with global climate ... there's land use, waste heat, crops, species extinction, population, pollution, etc.

"Hoffen wir mal, dass alles gut geht !"
General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.

 

[BridgeSmith]

STUDY: Polar Bear numbers reach new highs – Population increases to the highest levels in decades

Anyway, my comment on the article was regarding the infamous photo of the polar bear on an ice floe which they touted as one of the "most striking images that have been used to highlights the effects of global warming", completely ignoring that it was totally bogus propaganda.

 

[hokie66]

Yes, and when one talking point is obviously so bogus, the rest must be considered as dubious. What is the agenda, anyway? Just more money in the pockets of the 'scientists' and activists?

 

[dik]

Blowing smoke?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...opulation-polar-bears-increasing/11092356002/

and

https://canadiangeographic.ca/articles/the-truth-about-polar-bears/

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[TugboatEng]

If they have to use "experts say" as a debunk it's bogus.

 

[JoshPlumSE]

Blowing smoke?

I love that "fact check" by USA today. They dispute NOTHING about the posted graph of polar bear populations or the data that was presented, yet labeled it "false". LOL.

If you want to throw out the older data as "unreliable", fine. But, the graph still shows "reliable data" going back 30 years that shows a population growth. Maybe it's just that there is increased funding for polar bear population studies that help them better monitor "sub-populations" of polar bears. Okay. I will accept this counter point.

But, if this were a intellectually honest effort to "fact check" the facebook graph, it would have been labeled, "missing context" or "partly false". What they're really saying is, "This information is 100% correct, but you're too dumb to understand it".

The original Facebook post does an excellent job citing its sources. So, it is at least journalistically honest. It may be lacking important context. But, it's honest. Notice also, that nowhere in the "fact check" do they even mention the claim that a population resurgence could be related to the 1976 ban on Polar Bear hunting that Bjorn Lomborg claimed in his original post.

This is an excellent example of the dishonestly inherent in the "fact checker" industry.

 

[Tomfh]

”…the most striking images that have been used to highlights the effects of global warming", completely ignoring that it was totally bogus

But it’s true. Those images have been perhaps the most striking images used to highlight the effects of global warming.

Once you realise this is how they talk, in misleading doublespeak, it all becomes a lot clearer.

The magazine industry is one of the worst culprits.

 

[rb1957]

never let truth get in the way of a good story (or picture).

what do you mean the lemmings were thrown off the cliff ??
But there is one myth that has held on tenaciously: Every few years, herds of lemmings commit mass suicide by jumping off seaside cliffs. Instinct, it is said, drives them to kill themselves whenever their population becomes unsustainably large.
Lemmings do not commit suicide.
But the biggest reason the myth endures? Deliberate fraud. For the 1958 Disney nature film White Wilderness, filmmakers eager for dramatic footage staged a lemming death plunge, pushing dozens of lemmings off a cliff while cameras were rolling.

"Hoffen wir mal, dass alles gut geht !"
General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.

 

[dik]

I know... they've always had rain in Florida... it could be a sign of the future.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65245495

It will be interesting if they get two or three of this type of rain, in a year.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/12/weather/florida-flash-flood-fort-lauderdale/index.html

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[hokie66]

Maybe you can get a job reporting weather for a TV station.

 

[dik]

Thanks, Hokie, I don't need another job... I'm happy and busy with my current work.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[JoshPlumSE]

I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect increased precipitation as temperatures warm up. If you have more heat, more water evaporates and goes into the air. It has to come down at some point. Right? More rain, more storms, more weather related events. I don't think any of that is a stretch if you accept the theory that the earth is warming.

 

[dik]

You're correct Josh, the problem is that we don't know how much this added precipitation will be. It could be a couple of springtime showers, or it could be something a lot different.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Just wait until someone correlates all of that extra precipitation with sea level rise.

 

[dik]

ICYC (in case you're curious)...

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg2/

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik