Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part X 13

[dik]

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[BridgeSmith]

We set a record for the minimum high temperature yesterday, i.e. we've never had a daily high for July 5th as low as 57 F before.

 

[enginesrus]

"Surprise! This summer is extremely hot.

Yes your right, like I said since 2021 well placed high pressure areas.
All done to support the talking points.
And could help fuel the next huge lock down.
This is geoengineering at its finest.

 

[dik]

This could be another unwanted consequence:

"Our current projections for fighting climate change are based on the greenhouse gas sources that we already know about — but we could be dangerously underestimating, according to a new study looking at a greenhouse gas source that has, up until this point, been hidden under ice.

Researchers have found that as glaciers shrink, they’re exposing more and more bubbling groundwater springs, releasing an unknown amount of the potent greenhouse gas methane into the atmosphere.

“These springs are a considerable, and potentially growing, source of methane emissions — one that has been missing from our estimations of the global methane budget until now,” Gabrielle Kleber, lead author of the research with the University of Cambridge’s Department of Earth Sciences, said in a press release."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-...-released-by-melting-glaciers-study-1.6470516

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[TugboatEng]

The coast of Southern California used to regularly get covered in tar balls from natural underground seepage. A few decades of oil extraction have reduced the underground pressures enough that tar washing ashore is now a relatively rare event. Perhaps the solution to preventing methane from being released from under the ice is to extract it and burn it for power generation.

https://www.heritage.org/environmen...tion-benefits-the-economy-and-the-environment

 

[dik]

oh good... more CO[sub]2[/sub], but slightly less harmful... I've seen clips of them igniting the methane from ice bubbles in northern lakes.

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[hokie66]

Burning it off makes sense if it can't be captured. Methane in the atmosphere, always very harmful. Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, a good thing, but perhaps too much of a good thing is a bit harmful.

 

[dik]

Hokie... CO[sub]2[/sub] is like good Scotch... a little good is great... too much can be very problematic.

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[GregLocock]

Hopefully you are aware that life thrived at 5 times the current level of CO2

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[dik]

Not human... sorry guy...

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[TugboatEng]

Not human... sorry guy...

And that's simply not true. Humans evolved due to a lack of CO2, they didn't evolve to thrive without it. The big dumb cold-blooded animals were able to survive due to an abundance of food and moderate climate. As CO2 went away and the climate cooled, warm-blooded bodies and a more intelligent mind was required for larger animals to survive.

Makes you wonder why so many retirees move to warmer climates...

 

[enginesrus]

Co2 is our friend. The whole earth is Co2 neutral. We have not gone to another planet and brought Co2 to the earth. It originates from the earth. Meaning it is in total balance
and nothing to be concerned about. Stop the geoengineering, if you don't want climate change. But then they would have no talking points for the agenda.
Explain how that high pressure area is maintained in one area, and not affected by winds?

 

[GregLocock]

Straw man fallacy.

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[enginesrus]

Straw man fallacy.

Yeah until the full truth is revealed someday, right?
Like UFO swamp gas and such.

 

[dik]

And that's simply not true. It was typically 300 ppm... during human existance.

https://earth.org/data_visualization/a-brief-history-of-co2/

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[dik]

Heating up in Canada, too... more CO[sub]2[/sub].

"OTTAWA, Ont. — Canada’s 2023 wildfire season is unprecedented by many measures — but this is just the start.

“It’s no understatement to say that the 2023 fire season is — and will continue to be — record-breaking,” Michael Norton, director of the Northern Forestry Centre with the Canadian Forest Service at NRCan, said Thursday during a technical briefing on the unfolding crisis.

There are 639 active fires across Canada, 351 of which are out of control, Norton said. “The total area burned now exceeds any year on record.”"

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/06/canada-fire-season-00104959

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[TugboatEng]

And that's simply not true. It was typically 300 ppm... during human existance

And you missed the point entirely. Humans evolved from the change. I never said they existed prior.

 

[dik]

That's a big stretch...

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[TugboatEng]

It's literally what happened. Do we not exist and did the change not occur?

 

[dik]

Maybe the hottest yet...

"Observations from both satellites and the Earth’s surface are indisputable — the planet has warmed rapidly over the past 44 years. As far back as 1850, data from weather stations all over the globe make clear the Earth’s average temperature has been rising.

In recent days, as the Earth has reached its highest average temperatures in recorded history, scientists have made a bolder claim: It may well be warmer than any time in the last 125,000 years."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/07/08/earth-hottest-years-thousands-climate/

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[TugboatEng]

A little background on my comment about mammals evolving because of cold temperatures.

The Pleistocene Epoch also was the last time that a great diversity of mammals lived in North America, including mammoths, mastodons, giant sloths, several llama-like camels, and tapirs. And it was the last epoch native horses lived in North America."

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/f...event” of this,horses lived in North America.

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/f...event” of this,horses lived in North America.

Keep in mind that the Pleistocene Epoch started 2.5 million years ago so a 1 in 125 thousand year high temp isn't really that remarkable.