Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part XIV 2

[dik]

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Things are Starting to Warm Up. - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/hottest-city-earth-mothers-bear-brunt-climate-change-2022-06-14/ a sign of things to come... hold on to your hats, folks. [pipe] Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any...

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Things are Starting to Warm Up Part II - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

For earlier thread, see thread1618-496010 So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates -Dik

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Things are Starting to Warm Up Part III - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

For earlier thread, see thread1618-496010: Things are Starting to Warm Up. thread1618-496614: Things are Starting to Warm Up Part II So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates -Dik

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Things are Starting to Warm/Heat Up Part IV - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part V - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up Part VI - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part VII - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part VIII - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part IX - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part X - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

For earlier thread, see: thread1618-496010 thread1618-496614 thread1618-497017 thread1618-497239 thread1618-497988 thread1618-498967 thread1618-501135 thread1618-504850 thread1618-506948 -----*****----- So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning...

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part XI - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

For earlier threads, see: thread1618-496010 thread1618-496614 thread1618-497017 thread1618-497239 thread1618-497988 thread1618-498967 thread1618-501135 thread1618-504850 thread1618-506948 thread1618-507973 -----*****----- So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet...

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Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part XIII - Climate Change Engineering Solutions

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[GregLocock]

Sadly posting on eng-tips gives an element of authority to your vile moral positions and ludicrous non scientific prognostications and so might be taken to mean something more than random postings on the internet. So, I will continue to shoot your vile moral positions and ludicrous statements down whenever possible, in the vague hope that whoever is reading realises that your written commentary is worth less than nothing.

Oh, and so far as human rights

Chinese Persecution of the Uyghurs - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

Chinese Christian persecution worst in 40 years - Mission Network News

Christian persecution in China is the worst it’s been in 40 years, according to Dr. Bob Fu, president of ChinaAid. Dr. Fu spoke about this issue recently...

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[TugboatEng]

99 was the highest you could score. The person that gave the test explained that statistically 99 was the max value. That was 65 years back.

What test did you take? It must not have been meaningful if you can't even remember the name of it

 

[dik]

What test did you take?

It was the School and College Aptitude Test (SCAT). This was a series of tests in different subjects, given in Grade 7 (at the time) to see if you were suitable for university. Depending on the results, either a general education or a matriculation education was suggested. It was the math part of the test.

"It must not have been meaningful if you can't even remember the name of it"

The test was listed in my first posting of this information. I was/am extremely proud of my results in mathematics. I used to do Pythagoras' Theorem and use Trig Tables in Grade School; my dad taught me because I came across his airforce notebooks for airspeed, groundspeed, and windspeed, and asked for an explanation.

 

[dik]

New Records...

"This year, 2024, is set to become the hottest on record, surpassing the previous high in 2023, according to the European Union's Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S).

For the first time, average global temperatures will exceed 1.5C (2.7F) above pre-industrial levels from 1850-1900, the upper limit set by the Paris Agreement.

The agreement aimed to have countries work towards reducing global greenhouse gas emissions, with a goal of limiting the global average surface temperature increase to 1.5C above pre-industrial levels and striving to keep it well below 2C."

What climate records were broken in 2024?

As global temperatures continue to climb, 2024 is poised to overtake 2023 as the hottest year in recorded history.

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[BridgeSmith]

...according to the European Union's Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S)

Well, the the EU government gets the answers they pay for...

Do you have any sources to corroborate that assertion that are not wholly dependent on a government with an agenda for their funding?

 

[GregLocock]

You are of course aware that the 1.5 target is a meaningless number in scientific terms. Why not 1.4? 1.6? -6? 0? 1 ? 2 ? 3? 10?

As this rather nice chart with a weird x axis points out mammals even without electricity have survived and prospered through a wide range of temperatures. And just to head off some moronicity, the average 'lifespan' of a mammalian species is about 0.5 million years. We've been around for about 300k years, mostly living in Africa. The last interglacial was substantially warmer than today (not shown clearly on this chart)



Shown here



Human migration out of Africa kicked off about 100kya , by 60-70 kya they'd reached Australia.

 

[GregLocock]

Hmm, I wonder if next year when the temperature drops we'll see the same organisations announcing that of course it is just variability.

 

[TugboatEng]

I'm guessing they figure out a way to measure it so that it's still higher.

 

[GregLocock]

That's the nice thing about the satellite measurements (well no, they are a model as well). Suddenly them as control the data can't warm the surface temperature in the present so have to resort to cooling the past.

Handily in Australia the corrections create a 1.5 cooling in the pre industrial era. Gotta agree with the consensus after all. That is to say, all of the 1.5 warming since 1880 is due to 'corrections' to the instrumental record.

Here's the uncorrected data




combining the two eliminates the embarrassing lack of a trend to give a politically correct warming trend, which can be used to frighten teenagers and the gullible. It'd be funny if it wasn't being used to set policies that will trash our way of life.

 

[TugboatEng]

Lies by omission. It's green if we ignore the carbon footprint of the fuel itself. This seems to be the case for all green project.

Glen Sannox: 'Green' ferry has higher emissions than diesel ship

One transport expert tells the BBC it might be better to run the new CalMac ferry on diesel.

www.bbc.com

 

[dik]

There will be places on earth where there will be no change. There will, however, be places where the change will be quite signiifcant. For Australia, in general, it looks like it is heating up a tad (notice the red on the right and the blue on the left. Happy New Year to everyone.):

 

[dik]

I guess if you seasonally adjusted weather, you could likely do away with winter... There may be merit to it?

 

[GregLocock]

Well, as demonstrated much of the rise comes from 'adjustments' to the physical readings. The same sort of adjustment is done for other temperature series.

For instance here's a comparison between the previous version of HadCrut4 and the current version, HadCrut5

Magically they get 20% more warming, even though 4 and 5 use the same instrumental record!

As you can see H4 is missing 15% of the globe (Mercator of course makes it look like more). H5 tries to make up for this by making up answers for the missing data, and fortunately for the party line it runs hotter as a result. But since H4's trend agreed with UAH (the satellite record) it means H5 must have made up extra heat. So I predict that the computer models will run even hotter, if they use H5 as training data, (which they ones we've seen to date don't) . Again this suits the party line but isn't much help for sensible policy decisions.



Australia certainly has got warmer over the past 40 years, but over the past 120 years, who knows? The instrumental record has been comprehensively molested and is mostly hidden from the public.

"
The documents, released after a years-long Freedom of Information campaign, show temperature measurements taken using updated BOM probes in automatic weather stations at the Brisbane Airport site could be up to 0.7C warmer than the temperature taken using a traditional thermometer at the same time at the same site.

More than three years after a FOI request for parallel data was lodged by scientist John Abbot, the BOM released three years of data on Easter eve after the matter was taken to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.

In the end, the BOM released only limited data, paving the way for a wave of FOI demands that full records be released in the public interest."

 

[TugboatEng]

Don't you get it dik? Everything you advocate for makes the claimed situation worse.

 

[JoshPlumSE]

I don't think Dik's postings are vile or immoral in any way. He is merely re-posting most of what the media reports.

I still tend to think that Global Warming is happening and is at least partly caused by CO2 emissions. What most of the media fail to understand is any cost versus benefit analysis of reducing Global Warming vs adapting to it. Heck, I think it's also pretty clear that most proposed "solutions" to global warming will cause more harm than they prevent.

The media and government elitists tend to advocate for more and more government authority and regulation over our personal lives. They'll never want to put these concepts up to a popular vote because they genuinely don't believe the plebes should have a say in the decisions about what happens with our lives.

 

[dik]

Everything you advocate

Just a reduction in the C02, level... that's everything? It's still not happening and not fast enough...

 

[dik]

He is merely re-posting most of what the media reports.

Not just the media... the media is far behind the curve.

 

[GregLocock]

Josh - he said the Chinese use of Uighur slave labor to build solar panels is justified because China's human right's record is better than the USA's.

 

[JoshPlumSE]

GregLocock: Josh - he said the Chinese use of Uighur slave labor to build solar panels is justified because China's human right's record is better than the USA's.

Oooh, if he said that, then I agree is a horribly immoral statement. The systemic use of slave labor (whether Uyghur or political prisoners) is indefensible no matter what their labor is used for. FWIW. any organization that acknowledges China's use of slave labor like this that gives China a better "human rights record" is an organization that doesn't deserve to exist anymore. It's probably a UN committee on human rights Chaired by China, Iran, or Russia...... LOL.

Dik: Not just the media... the media is far behind the curve.

How so? The media is merely reporting whatever the climate alarmists are telling them to report. Aided by tons of funding given to groups who report what the government wants to be reported..... that there needs to be more government control over the energy sector.

 

[TugboatEng]

The media is at the very forefront. They do absolutely zero due diligence done on anything they report on. There is no delay between the think tank and your monitor.