Things are Starting to Warm/Heat Up Part IV 9

[dik]

thread1618-496010:
thread1618-496614:
thread1618-497017:


So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

Some news about China:

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-...-Of-The-Worlds-Renewable-Energy-Capacity.html

and from Politico:

"Public and private investment in clean energy in China was $381 billion last year, according to the International Energy Agency. That outstrips all of North America by $146 billion. The share of electricity generation provided by renewables is higher in China than in the U.S., while the sheer number of solar panels and wind turbines being installed across China leaves their American rivals in the dust."

"Despite being the home of Tesla, the U.S. has also missed the jump on electric vehicles. Chinese buyers bought more electric cars and vans — 3.3 million — in 2021 than the entire world combined bought in 2020. Sales in the first quarter of 2022 then doubled year-on-year. In the U.S., growth has started to ramp up, but from a significantly lower base."

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

China proposing to use 'cloud seeding' it would appear. I seem to recall this was tried a couple of decades back with some unanticipated effects on storm intensity:

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/21/1118683699/china-grain-harvest-cloud-seeding

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

It looks like the handbasket is going to be the way out of climate change:

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/High-Impact-Oil-And-Gas-Drilling-Is-Back.html

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

...and maybe the good news, "We've been there before."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-levels-drop-uncovering-historical-sites.html

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[rb1957]

"China proposing to use 'cloud seeding' it would appear."

as a response to drought, then ok (been done in the past), but as a response to climate change ...
oh, good god, no !! haven't we learnt enough about unintended consequences ??

"Hoffen wir mal, dass alles gut geht !"
General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.

 

[dik]

We'll have to see how this turns out... desperate times call for desperate measures. What could go wrong?

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

NO! That's the problem. The political left is going to use manufactured desperation to advance their ideology without actually taking action against climate change/making it worse.

The world needs conservation, not upheaval.

 

[dik]

Tug... quit with the political right and left... it's a problem for all people. Biden is no longer responsible fot this mess than Trump is. It predates both of them. I'm not sure that Biden's approach will fix it... I'm pretty sure that Trumps approach will not.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Sorry, when I see words like believe and desperation then I know reason is out the window.

 

[dik]

You may not appreciate the potential damage ahead... times could become desperate. I don't know how things will end up. Maybe a tempest in a teapot, maybe something far more serious. That's the real puzzle with climate change. We're in new territory.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

The effect of climate change on marine life:

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-e...tion-if-greenhouse-emissions-dont-drop-study/

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

More drought and the effects of drought:

https://seekingalpha.com/news/38752...een-as-next-big-threat-of-economic-disruption

https://www.geo.tv/latest/435220-by...ut-water-with-nearly-7-billion-people-thirsty

The latter can have some real geopolitical effects.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

Part of the climate change inertia:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-32412-y

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Tomfh]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-32412-y

While 66–80% Americans support these policies, Americans estimate the prevalence to only be between 37–43% on average. Thus, supporters of climate policies outnumber opponents two to one, while Americans falsely perceive nearly the opposite to be true.

Wrong conclusion. The author assumes that the "66-80%" of people who CLAIM to support the policies actually do. Like a lot of people, if asked, I support the policies, despite not actually supporting them. It's similar to 90% of Russians "supporting" Putin. If you don't support him, you're in trouble, so support him you do.

 

[dik]

Another red herring and missing the point. I have no idea of what the percentages are, or even if Putin's mom likes him.

From appearance, it doesn't seem that anyone is the least concerned about climate change, or whatever you want to call the current extreme weather conditions. I suspect things will get a lot worse in the next decade or so... but, I don't know for sure. As I've noted many times, I think we are in totally new territory, and no one can really predict what will happen. My personal opinion is that it can get 'real ugly'.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Tomfh]

From appearance, it doesn't seem that anyone is the least concerned about climate change

The link you provided argued that the overwhelming majority of people are.

 

[dik]

That's the link... there doesn't seem to be much activity... like Mark Twain, "Everyone's talking about the weather..."

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

The people who want to do something about it get shunned as deniers for pointing out the absurdities of the CC movement so they stay quiet.

 

[dik]

I'm pretty sure people don't know what to do... there will be a lot of 'false starts' and snake oil. I see what's happened with something minor like Covid... I have no idea of what socio-political events will happen, if they do. I suspect they will, but don't know for sure. There was an intersting article in the Washington Post regarding an unexpected historic methane release off Africa, likely triggered by heated ocean that released a huge amount of trapped methane. The same thing could happen again, or something entirely different. We don't know what all the possible problems are... or maybe some benefits.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/08/24/methane-hydrates-ocean-global-warming/

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

We know what to do, reduce energy consumption with more efficient processes. However, that doesn't contribute to climate justice so the idea gets shunned. We could start by replacing all of our conventional power plants with combined cycle units. That would instantly result in a 30% reduction in CO2 emissions vs. every conventional plant replaced all without even changing the fuel. Combined cycle plants can be built to utilize existing infrastructure and can be built within the lifecycle of the conventional plants.

But, your allies are clearly not interested in this.