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Things are Starting to Warm/Heat Up Part IV 9

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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It looks like the Americans are getting it in both ends...[pipe]

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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There could be an impact on the supply chain for manufactured items: [pipe]
"But an expert told Fortune that the ongoing heat wave is more than just a regional problem, and could have dramatic repercussions worldwide. Because of the specific challenges that heat poses, manufacturing work-arounds that became common during the height of COVID will no longer be possible, potentially leading to even more severe economic outcomes.

“These shutdowns have the potential to be equally if not more impactful on supply chains than recent COVID lockdowns,” said Mirko Woitzik, global director of intelligence solutions for Everstream Analytics, a supply-chain insights and risk analytics company."


So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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I came across an article on sea level rising. The included map shows the areas of the oceans affected the most: [pipe]


"“With 30 years of data, we can finally see what a huge impact we have on the Earth’s climate,” said Josh Willis, an oceanographer at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) and NASA’s project scientist for Sentinel-6 Michael Freilich. “The rise of sea level caused by human interference with the climate now dwarfs the natural cycles. And it is happening faster and faster every decade.”"

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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this was posted on another thread (or eariler on this one) or something very similar ... it may be a report of the original.

But I still question the 4" in 30 years. I know many tidal gauges do not show this. I also question the idea of average sealevel (and also average global temperature).

"Hoffen wir mal, dass alles gut geht !"
General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.
 
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What is the role of an oceanographer at the "Jet Propulsion Laboratory"?
 
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Funny you should ask, Tug... Maybe his sister-in-law owns the plant... dunno, but it is often advantageous to have people of different disciplines working at a facility... [pipe]

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Tug and I got into a bit of a discussion a bit back regarding the earth 'speeding up'. Tug was correct in that the increase in water should be equatorial which would tend to slow things down... they couldn't explain the reason either... but, the time measurement was correct. The included map shows that the increases aren't just at the equator.

I don't know where the melting glaciation seems to be going... some areas of the earth are currently parched, so it's not going there. Maybe it's going to the oceans? This seems like a logical place. I'm interested to know how they determine the value. I suspect it's the statistical summation of a whole bunch of data, and there is a reliability factor associated with it, but I don't know. I suspect strongly that the information is correct, and more intersting is that it is speeding up.

Apparently it has a real affect on the tides, too, or maybe the moon is just pulling harder [pipe]

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"Future projections are gloomier. Without additional flood management efforts, the frequency of this kind of flooding is projected to double or triple by 2030, and could be as much as 15-fold higher by 2050. This means high-tide flooding could occur 180 days a year in some locations, “effectively becoming the new high tide,” the report reads."

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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Sorry dik, I don't appreciate being misled about where my tax dollars go. When I pay to find an organization called jet propulsion laboratory I expect my money to be spent on the field of jet propulsion.

Also, what is a "flood day"?
 
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You pay for politicians... why would you care how government wastes your money? Maybe as part of the space program, they are doing research on tides, or maybe the earth?

I suspect a flood day is any day that water reaches a pre-defined flood level or reaches a particular point on land, and the level may vary depending on where you live. What it does mean, more importantly, is that something is changing from what had occurred in past. Looking at the chart it appears that there has been a significant change starting about 1980, assuming there has not been a change in the manner they have been measuring it. [pipe]

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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ok, the number of floods has increased. why use this as a proxy for higher sealevels, when a tidal gauge would show it more directly ? Can you show me a tidal gauge that shows sealevel has increased 4" in 30 years ?

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General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.
 
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It really doen't matter what the tidal gauge is reading (it's the typical geotech report disclaimer that the testhole is valid for that one location). If the number of times the level has increased to the point that more land is being flooded and the amount of flooding has been increased, then changes are occuring. These are very likely a result of climate change... or an increased lunar 'pull'. [ponder]

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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Units of measure need to have clear and standardized definitions. Flood days lacks these things therefore it is a low quality measurement.
 
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Sure, but a measurement nonetheless. Something has changed, and the chart clearly shows that! The lack of units doesn't invalidate the change as long as the same method is used for all records. [pipe]

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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Where exactly did you get that chart? Annapolis floods due to hurricanes, not tides. Were there no hurricanes between 1960 and 1980?
 
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I have no idea... maybe the hurricanes are getting worse... but changing, nonetheless, but if the same method of measurement is being used, the chart clearly shows that something is changing, quite a bit since about 1980. The chart was in a NASA article:


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Annapolis is experiencing land subsidence at a rate of 1.1-4.8mm per year.
 
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I thought we'd beaten the sea level thing to death, apparently not. 4" in 30 years is ~ 13" per century, nothing special.

The tectonic plate that the USA sits on is tilting, with the east coast dropping. The Mississippi in particular is also sinking for well understood reasons.

here's the global results





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