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Things are Starting to Warm/Heat Up Part IV 9

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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You’re way too diplomatic dik!
Don’t spare us the bad news, aka truth.

;)

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"
 
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My big concern is that it's only beginning...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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There was an article on using algae to cut down on CO[sub]2[/sub] and I don't know how valid/realistic it is:


The problem is that it allows businesses to continue their ways without improvement by paying someone to remove the equivalent CO[sub]2[/sub] produced. It may be some of the snakeoil that will come out of the woodwork. I don't know, but it sounds plausible. If things get worse, people may try to cling to 'stranger things'. [pipe]

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
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Lots of people are working on schemes to feed algae with stack CO2. It is great in principle but technically difficult, especially at scale. One challenge is the LEDs, whose wavelength is tuned to the optimum for the specific algae species, gets blocked by the water getting steadily murkier.


"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"
 
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Carbon capture is bogus. The whole point of burning fossil fuels is liberating CO2 so you can harvest the associated energy. To then spend that energy locking the carbon back up again makes no sense. Its a carbon merry go round machine. If that’s the goal - locked up carbon - why not just not burn it in the first place?
 
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I could understand if they were using solar powered algae but LED driven algae is just ridiculous.

I remember the original algae sequestration concept was intended to be used to create fuel. But that was back when everybody thought we were only a few years away from running out of crude oil.

Example:
 
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As I noted... I don't know if it's snakeoil, but the discussion sounded plausible.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
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@tomfh ... sustainable fuels are not meant to, AFAIUI, "capture carbon". The problem with burning FFs is we're adding CO2 to the atmosphere, and that CO2 was remove from the atmosphere "eons" ago, hence we're adding the the atmosphere's CO2 concentration. Sustainable fuels work by removing CO2 from yesterday's atmosphere, and putting it back tomorrow, on very short time scales, so we're not significantly changing the CO2 level in the atmosphere. I think the intention is that sustainable fuels are an acceptable replacement (option) for FF for things like airplanes that Need a very dense energy fuel. Sure, I guess others would rather we gave up flying altogether (as a luxury we won't be able to afford in the future).

"Hoffen wir mal, dass alles gut geht !"
General Paulus, Nov 1942, outside Stalingrad after the launch of Operation Uranus.
 
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rb... I think there's going to have to be a 'whole pile' of cutting back, too... [pipe]

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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The operators of Hoover Dam have reduced the power output because Lake Mead is shrinking.

Hoover Dam is in the Black Canyon. When they built the dam, the canyon was "hell hot." No doubt it is hotter now.

In the link below, Norton and Huddleston explain how to modify a hydroelectric plant to get two to four times more power from a given water flow, compared to the power it would produce in the usual way. They assumed that natural gas would provide the kick. Gordon D. Friedlander wrote about this proposal in the May 1, 1978 Electrical World, "Exploiting our 'dam' potential."


Since Black Canyon is so hot, solar energy could replace natural gas in such a plant. That would be the epitome of a renewable power plant, and the power output would be huge.

This proposal is too big for us today. Ain't going to happen. It doesn't require any electronic gizmos for downloading apps and keeping up with the Kardashians. It's so 1970s. On to Mars, say the billionaires. No need to worry about what we are doing to this planet.
 
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Instead of sending celebrity billionaires to Mars, send them to ‘hell hot’

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"
 
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This does not appear to be abating:



I guess if there's a 'buck to be made'... this will likely continue until the end, whatever that is. [pipe]

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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I don't know how this will happen, but for the benefit of the earth, there are going to be some significant changes. I suspect there may be some interesting events when people realise/learn that the excesses of the few are causing them the grief they are experiencing. It's not in the governments' best interest to let them find this out.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
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He was a scary guy... God has a nice warm spot reserved for that dude...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
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More on Heating... no mention of climate change and reference to urbanisation for the cause of the heating problem. Their acknowledgement of a problem is good, but their approach may do little as the temperatures soar another 10C. .


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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik
 
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