Things are Starting to Warm Up Part II 24

[dik]

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[ACtrafficengr]

At some point, you have to wonder what evidence it takes for some people to reevaluate their position.

One end of the country has had a half dozen 1% storm events in the past 30 years, and the other end is enduring a 0.1% drought.

Ask highway maintenance engineers if they've noticed weather patterns changing.

My glass has a v/c ratio of 0.5

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[GregLocock]

Cherry picked anecdotal stuff (ie. facts and evidence) just corroborates the sciencey sounding scare stories.

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[dik]

Yes Greg, and it could even get scarier...

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[hokie66]

Yes, the stories you and others are spreading do tend to scare some folks.

 

[dik]

Hokie, not enough it would appear.

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[GregLocock]

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[Guest102023]

Cherry picked anecdotal stuff (ie. facts and evidence) just corroborates the sciencey sounding scare stories.

That’s your story and you’re sticking to it.

If you’re not scared you’re not paying attention (or have your head buried in the sand. Possibly the magical energy storing kind).


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[TugboatEng]

In the 1990's we talked about terraforming mars. I guess we gave up on human driven climate change.

 

[hokie66]

It is the new religion. The climate changes, therefore a belief formed that we can reverse the changes, otherwise we are doomed.

 

[rb1957]

"The climate changes, therefore a belief formed that we" are responsible for the change and we "can reverse the changes, otherwise we are doomed."

Maybe we are responsible, maybe it's primarily a natural process.

Maybe we can reverse it, maybe we can't (that we've initiated some natural process, the "tipping point", and we're already doomed).

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[TugboatEng]

The only thing that is certain is that we are an adaptable species therefore we are not doomed.

 

[IRstuff]

It is the new religion. The climate changes, therefore a belief formed that we can reverse the changes, otherwise we are doomed.

The new religion is Denialism

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[TugboatEng]

Denialism of what?

 

[rb1957]

when did questioning something become "denialism" ?

when did questioning "it's obvious ..." become denialism ?

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[dik]

Can we get back to examples of effects and examples of Climate Change.

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[TugboatEng]

But that's what we get bombarded with every day. It's more constructive to share counter-examples.

Once someone calls themselves a "climate scientist" they can no longer be trusted. Their career and livelihood is solely based on how much shock and fear they drum up. Any climate scientist that concludes everything is fine or this is normal is essentially saying their career was superfluous.

 

[dik]

Tug... I'd appreciate any postings where there has been a marked improvement in things... a new item:

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/...ctica-s-doomsday-glacier-20220714-p5b1ne.html

Lorenz' butterfly, anyone?

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[Guest102023]

Anthropogenic: it’s a thing, google it.

In one way denial is a natural response to problems that have a massive scale. Our brains prefer to switch off in the face of seemingly overwhelming situations. We do the same with (for just a few examples) the opioid epidemic, the toxic legacy of slavery, and violence against women.

That becomes aggravated in a milieu that is saturated in the mythology of self-determination, authority over nature, and exceptionalism (yes I’m talking about you, Yanks).

When you live in Disneyland, expect Mickey Mouse solutions.

I suppose I have now set the cat among the pigeons here.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[TugboatEng]

Here is one that won't make people happy:

https://www.nersc.gov/news-publicat...eley-lab-team-up-on-pioneering-climate-study/

The warming is caused by our energy consumption, not our CO2 emissions. As a result, renewables won't improve the situation.

 

[dik]

They need rainfall, depending on how much... why unhappy? Maybe warming is caused by a combination of several issues?

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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