Things are Starting to Warm Up Part II 24

[dik]

For earlier thread, see

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[dik]

Top carbon footprint producers... gotta start loppin' at the top!

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-e...f-us-greenhouse-gas-methane-emissions-report/

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[dik]

Maybe the heat dries stuff out so it burns easier?

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[dik]

Some good news...

https://theconversation.com/austral...urdened-with-taking-care-of-it-at-home-184840

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[Guest102023]

Dik,

All this news isn’t real, it’s just you and your downer attitude, cherry picking trivial climate events from obscure conspiracist news outlets like the NY Times and the BBC. You must remember that at this moment, over 99% of the land surface is NOT burning up and NOT under water. Wouldn’t you agree 99% is a very good score? Focus on the positive!

If you could just adopt a sunnier disposition all these problems would evaporate. (Sorry if I hurt Lake Mead’s feelings there with those last words.)




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[dik]

brims... these anomalities for the 1% of the planet, don't seem to be letting up. Being bright and cheerie, and ignoring the effects, will not diminish the outcomes.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Dik, regions like Vietnam are very hot yet don't burn so much. Maybe the temperature (heat means something else) isn't the problem?

 

[Guest102023]

Hilarious, classic Tug!

Dik,
Your heart and brain are in the right place, but seriously, you need to raise your sarcasm detection game!

Cheers

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[TugboatEng]

No sarcasm. The Sahara is also very hot and doesn't burn much. Temperature doesn't cause fires.

 

[Guest102023]

Tug,
Try to read more carefully, was I talking to you about sarcasm?
You may think you are doing sarcasm, but it comes off as a desperate compulsion to rebut any and all news presented here by others that conflicts with your rigid worldview, by any tactic necessary. Stuff that you might get away with in competitive debating or interweb fora but not in the realm of scientific discussion.
I know this because (among my many other talents) I am a past master at applied sarcasm. You would not believe the fraction of my mental energy that i have to devote to self-monitoring for sarcasm at the office, toward people who really really need to hear it.
But something I’ve discovered is that the folks who need sarcasm the most are the ones least likely to register it. A great pity that!


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[IRstuff]

The Sahara is also very hot and doesn't burn much. Temperature doesn't cause fires.

Crock, of course, since the Sahara is nearly devoid of trees; some claim that's because people burned all the trees to do farming.

Try to start a fire without a heat source.

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[TugboatEng]

Hypergolic.

Nowhere on Earth is the atmosphere hot enough to "start a fire". And it still won't be after climate change, either.

 

[Guest102023]

Well that rules out spontaneous combustion as a trigger for starting fires in forests or humans.

We’ve advanced the discussion here.

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[TugboatEng]

Lightning strikes are the most common natural cause of fires.

Blaming fires on 1 degree of temperature rise is silly. That is all.

 

[IRstuff]

Blaming fires on 1 degree of temperature rise is silly. That is all.

the hotter the temperature, the less likely wood retains any moisture that might have slowed down ignition/combustion. Properly hydrated plants resist burning; dry wood burns quite well..

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[IRstuff]

Lightning strikes are the most common natural cause of fires.

Where's your data? US Forest Service says otherwise 85% caused by humans

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[TugboatEng]

I said natural cause.

High temperature can also increase the moisture content of the air. Most rain forests exist in the tropics. It's a bit of a reach to say higher temperatures will cause aridification.

 

[Guest102023]

1 degree rise in average temperature over the planet has a massive impact, which you should acknowledge if you’re being honest (and because you are always lecturing on thermodynamics).

A figure from a very old TV doc has stuck with me: a 1 deg C rise in mean temperature in a particular agricultural region in E N America increased (statistically) the growing season from 90 to 105 days. I’d say that’s a very big impact. In my lifetime I’ve observed the frost-free season increase dramatically. When I was a kid there would be frost in May and September, with the odd exception neither has happened in 30 years. I’ve several times seen April and October be frost-free. Frost is the kind of thing even a small child recognizes, yet adults argue about it.

1 degree also increases the moisture carrying capacity of air significantly, contributing to more intense tropical storms.

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[Guest102023]

Lightning strikes are the most common natural cause of fires.

And it is safer to be thrown from the vehicle in a collision than to be restrained by a seatbelt.

It took 30 years of campaigns, data collection, and finally laws to overcome that no brain behaviour, so what will it take to change fossil fuel behaviours when vehicles are a de facto pillar of our belief system?

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[dik]

...and on the other side of the pond. 30 years ahead of their time; I wonder where this will end?

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/15/weather/2050-uk-forecast-comes-true-in-2022/index.html

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik