Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part X 13

[dik]

For earlier thread, see:

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[GregLocock]

Shrugs, my data is for the USA, your scary colored graph is heavily influenced by the warming of the Arctic.

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[dik]

Whatever... sorry guy, the chart is for the world... for the US, it's a little different, but of of a simiilar ilk.

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[waross]

Fun with numbers:

20°C to 22°C is a lot more alarming than an increase of 293K to 295K

20C to 22C = 110%
68F to 71.6F = 105.3%
293K to 295K = 100.7%

To all the proponents using the misleading figure of 20C/22C percentages rather than ratios based on absolute temperatures I have a partial solution:
If all countries change from Celsius to Fahrenheit we can cut the temperature increase from 10% to 5.3%, almost one half.
Once we implement that we will have broken the ice (or melted it) so to speak.
Then we can go to work on reducing the temperature increase to less than 1% by educating the planet on the concept of absolute zero.
Another option may be to re-elect Trump and he will fix it with his "Magic Sharpy".



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[dik]

Not really... end result is pretty much similar...

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[TugboatEng]

Another option may be to re-elect Trump and he will fix it with his "Magic Sharpy".

Well, we really should be raking our forests. Maybe we should burn the biomass to prevent it from becoming methane. A properly tuned furnace will produce a lot less particulate matter than letting the inevitable occur naturally.

 

[dik]

Attribution:

""You can say that smoking increases your risk of lung cancer by a certain amount," Gillett said. "In the same way, you can say human-induced climate change increased the risk of a certain event by a certain amount."

Since then, hundreds of attribution papers have been peer-reviewed and published. As well as Canada, governments including the United Kingdom, Australia, the Netherlands, South Korea, Japan and the United States are using attribution science.

Attribution science works by comparing climate models. One set of models will use data drawn from actual records while another, otherwise identical, set will be constructed with the influence of greenhouse gases removed.

Simulations will be run using those two sets and the difference in the results reveals the impact of climate change. It allows scientists to say to what extent the presence of greenhouse gases increased the likelihood of the event in question.

"It's probabilistic," Gillett said.

The process is now established enough, with peer-reviewed protocols and standards, that the calculations can be done quickly."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-...ly-link-extreme-weather-and-climate-1.6490333

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[GregLocock]

That's from the EPA. Texas is not warming particularly.

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[dik]

Maybe a little bit...
Notice the red on the right and the blue on the left... We'll see what the next few years will bring.

California and Florida show more promise:

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[dik]

The guy's a bit of a pessimist... If you follow the curve to the right, horizontally as the current approach appears to be, it looks like the temperature rise will be 3.8C... and who knows what will happen. All speculation... the polar vortex could bring on another ice age, but I doubt it.

"The UN says passing the limit will expose millions more people to potentially devastating climate events.

The world agreed to try to limit the temperature increase due to climate change to 1.5C above pre-industrial levels at a UN conference in Paris in 2015. That target has become the centrepiece of global efforts to tackle climate change.

Climate scientists have been warning governments for years that they are not cutting their countries' emissions quickly enough to keep within this target.

But it is surprising for someone as senior and well respected as the former head of the UN climate science body the IPCC to be so frank that he believes it will be missed."

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66256101

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[dik]

...just so they can sell more air conditioners in California and Florida... and hope they don't run out of power.

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[TugboatEng]

Who is "the guy"?

 

[dik]

which guy... him, " for someone as senior and well respected as the former head of the UN climate science body the IPCC"

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[TugboatEng]

The IPCC doesn't seem to be well respected here.

 

[dik]

It doesn't appear that anyone that advocates that climate change is happening is well respected. It will be interesting to see what the next few 'bars' on the 'Temperature Change Bar Charts' are like...

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[TugboatEng]

No. Nobody here respects climate alarmists.

 

[dik]

Judging from the weather of late, it might be time to get, at least, a little concerned. Once it gets moving, it may be difficult to stop.

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[dik]

If you don't like the IPCC... then you probably won't like this presentation, either...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8erFXZmp7fo

and the article that follows it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3cznpfIpA

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[dik]

Productivity drain... I wonder who's going to pay for this and is it factored into the costs of climate change? If you think you are setting records now, wait until next year, or maybe worse, next month.

"“The heat, it’s just miserable, I don’t know how to explain it other than you feel like you’re breathing in hot air,” she said. “Even at nighttime, the sun is down, but it’s still hot.”

In the dead of night, the temperature remains in the triple digits.

As Phoenix and a large chunk of the United States bake under a record heat wave, the massive swath of extreme heat is not only taking a toll on millions of Americans, it’s also driving up costs for businesses and putting pressure on the economy.

$100 billion productivity drain
While the true economic impact has yet to be tabulated for this weather event — the nature of excessive heat, its varying effects and sizable reach make that a tall order — recent studies have shown that extreme heat could cost the United States $100 billion annually from the productivity loss alone. If left unchecked, it could sap away one-sixth of global economic activity by the year 2100.

“The recent heat waves and scorching summer temperatures demonstrate the economic cost of heat stress,” Chris Lafakis, Moody’s Analytics’ director of economic research, wrote in an emailed response to a CNN query. “Heat waves can cause mortality and produce disruptions in business continuity. Heat waves can also stress regional power grids, driving up the cost and availability of space cooling.”"

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/23/economy/extreme-heat-economic-impact/index.html

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[TugboatEng]

Why is it that he most sensitive to heat related illness (the elderly) always seem to move to the hottest areas after retirement?

 

[waross]

Chill weather is not friendly to arthritis. Wait for it.


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Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!