Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part X 13

[dik]

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[dik]

Problems may occur a little earlier?

"Across the world, rainforests are becoming savanna or farmland, savanna is drying out and turning into desert, and icy tundra is thawing. Indeed, scientific studies have now recorded “regime shifts” like these in more than 20 different types of ecosystem where tipping points have been passed. Across the world, more than 20% of ecosystems are in danger of shifting or collapsing into something different.

These collapses might happen sooner than you’d think. Humans are already putting ecosystems under pressure in many different ways – what we refer to as stresses. And when you combine these stresses with an increase in climate-driven extreme weather, the date these tipping points are crossed could be brought forward by as much as 80%.

This means an ecosystem collapse that we might previously have expected to avoid until late this century could happen as soon as in the next few decades. That’s the gloomy conclusion of our latest research, published in Nature Sustainability."

https://theconversation.com/ecologi...much-sooner-than-expected-new-research-207955

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[dik]

Fish and chips, anyone... well, maybe chips?

"But then, amid the revelry, a solemn procession appeared. Two dozen festivalgoers carried a series of blown-up photographs into the sea. They were portraits by the artist Gideon Mendel of people, many of them from the global south, standing amid the floods that had overturned their lives. Suddenly, in the face of their fates, the sea seemed not so benign after all. It was a reminder that sea levels are rising around the world; and that here in the UK we face our own potential disaster – the drastic sudden warming of the sea off Britain and Ireland.

It is one of this year’s nastier surprises. Sea temperatures are up to 5C higher than usual, in part due to human-induced global heating, and in part as a result of this year’s El Niño effect. It is a mortal reminder of how the sea dominates our entire planet – that a cycle of warm water in the distant Pacific should impact so severely on our local shores. As water temperatures reach an all-time high, the direct effect on wildlife – from seagrass to oysters and fish – will be devastating, the way “wildfires take out huge areas of forest”, as one scientist says."

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...rming-britain-seas-wildfire-fragile-ecosystem

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[dik]

Australia is to get some much needed rain next week.

"A 3000km rain band is forecast to engulf Australia next week, bringing parts of the country a season’s worth of rain in just a few days.

A 3000-kilometre rain band is forecast to engulf Australia next week, stretching from the Pilbara and Kimberly, across the outback and to the eastern seaboard, bringing with it soaking rains.

The upcoming drenching follows a week of above-average rain and below-average temperatures in the southern states.

Rain fell across the entirety of the southeast in the 48 hours to the weekend, including 48mm that landed on Adelaide, 100mm on the Mount Lofty Ranges and 28mm on Narrabri.

It has made for the wettest start to winter in decades for some towns in the Murray Basin, including Shepparton, where the monthly rainfall total exceeded 100mm for the first time in a winter calendar month since 1991."

https://www.news.com.au/technology/...e/news-story/9f03d2632d1b50aeaba1d3d3b6976a16

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[hokie66]

It will be very welcome if it gets as far north as Queensland. We are dry here, as is usual for this time of the year. But what is your point? Australian weather is what it is. Land of drought and flooding rains. Ever it has been, and ever will be.

 

[GregLocock]

Hang on we've just had 2.5 years of higher than average rain. Much needed?

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/history/rainfall/

Cheers

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[dik]

Maybe more on the way...

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[dik]

Oppressive heat...

"More than 50 million people across the south from Arizona to Louisiana are under “oppressive” heat Sunday, and about as many people across the Ohio, Tennessee, and Mississippi valleys are under a threat of severe storms.

The heat alerts include much of Texas as well as parts of Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Tennessee, according to the National Weather Service.

“The heat will be oppressive with widespread high temperatures exceeding 100 degrees and heat indices as high as 120 degrees,” according to the Weather Prediction Center, noting “heat indices may exceed 120 degrees in some locations in South Texas.”

Dangerously high temperatures are forecast to expand into the central Plains and Middle and Lower Mississippi Valley by the middle of the week."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/25/us/severe-storm-excess-heat-sunday/index.html

Just as a caution... I "sous vide" steaks at 55C... it takes an hour, but they are medium rare...

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[SnTMan]

Here in Oklahoma we just call it "summer"

OK, some observations and speculations:

Last Saturday (17th) midnight here in Tulsa a strong windstorm caused widespread damage to trees and structures, of course knocking out the electrical power to thousands in the area, including myself. Got it back Friday evening. Thank the Lord.

Now, starting last Sunday line crews from all over the country, some from as far as New Jersey, started mobilizing to the area to assist the local utility with repairs. Almost all repairs wee completed within one week. Almost all, unfortunately.

I am now imagining our glorious all electric future when all the heavy trucks and all the power equipment such as chain saws and so forth are battery powered.

HOW LONG does it take to mobilize several states away? HOW LONG does it take to clear away the downed trees and other debris so that the repairs can be made? HOW, in our glorious all-electric future does this get done AT ALL when the grid is down over a large area?

Speculation: NOBODY KNOWS

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand

 

[dik]

I guess we'll have to wait and see...

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[GregLocock]

48 states heat wave index.

So it seems likely that heatwaves aren't necessarily linked to CO2. I'd be inclined to cal them weather.

Cheers

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[JoshPlumSE]

Changing by 2deg is a little bigger than just going up 2deg.

OMG.... Total brain fart on my part.

It's 2 degrees Celsius total change. So, that's from 100 years ago to now, I believe. So, 2 degrees *9/5 = 3.6 degree total. If we've seen 1 degree F change already, then it's only about another 3 degrees F.

Across the world, rainforests are becoming savanna or farmland, savanna is drying out and turning into desert, and icy tundra is thawing.

Overall, the world is greener now than it was 100 or 50 years ago. This is probably due to human action (cultivation, farming, gardens, lawns, etc). But, it appears to be the case in areas that are not very inhabited. Overall, that's a good thing. More plant life = more CO2 removal. More plant life = more food sources for animals. It means barren landscapes becoming more fertile and diverse.

Regarding rainforests becoming deserts that is (I believe) due to intentional deforestation. Where people burn down the rain forest so they can grow crops there. But, the soil isn't very fertile and only produces for a few brief years. So, they move on to the next area of forest to burn. Terrible environmental disaster / management. But, it genuinely isn't caused by CO2 emissions,

 

[SnTMan]

"I guess we'll have to wait and see..."

Doesn't sound like a plan to me.

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand

 

[dik]

For the possible seriousness of the problem, people don't appear to be concerned or acting on it... guess we'll just have to wait and hope best or live with what happens.

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[dik]

Maybe not directly, but they might be related, at least a little bit, to changes in climate.

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[dik]

Going up 3.6deg is a little bigger than just going up 3.6deg... It's all the good stuff that comes from the increase in temperature... including more humidity, more violent storms, and other changes.

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[TugboatEng]

For the possible seriousness of the problem, people don't appear to be concerned or acting on it... guess we'll just have to wait and hope best or live with what happens.

The problem is that every action you suggest is going to cause serious problems. We can wait and adapt to environmental changes but the rapid replacement of carbon based energy is only going to cause death. Ironically, due to extreme cold.

 

[dik]

Just a caution... not doing anything could be a lot uglier...

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[TugboatEng]

It's already a proven fact that cooler than normal temps result in more deaths than warmer than normal temps.

 

[BridgeSmith]

For the possible seriousness of the problem, people don't appear to be concerned or acting on it... guess we'll just have to wait and hope best or live with what happens.

I'd consider making adjustments, but not until the climate alarmists start. As long as the people trying to sell us on a climate crisis are still flying all over in their private jets, and building mansions on the coasts they claim will underwater soon, I'm not going to take them seriously, and I'm certainly not going to make sacrifices to my meager lifestyle in order to follow their directives. I also will not advocate for those directives to be made mandatory on anyone else.

 

[Tomfh]

Overall, the world is greener now than it was 100 or 50 years ago. This is probably due to human action

A large part of it is no longer harvesting wood for fuel. A lot of cover has grown back now that we've switched to fossil fuels. The climate zealots are doing their best to reverse this trend, pushing for "biofuels" (i.e. trees) to replace fossil fuels. For reasons no-one's yet managed to explain, burning a tree that died a 50 million years ago is considered so much much worse than cutting down a happy living tree and burning it. Dead tree = "dirty". Living tree = "clean and renewable".

The 30% increase in CO2 due to our CO2 emissions has also caused signifcant increase in plant growth. This has proved a major headache for the alarmists. Their scientists have been hard at work trying to show how an increase in plant growth and higher associated yields is bad bad thing.