Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part XII 23

[dik]

For earlier threads, see:
thread1618-496010
thread1618-496614
thread1618-497017
thread1618-497239
thread1618-497988
thread1618-498967
thread1618-501135
thread1618-504850
thread1618-506948
thread1618-507973
thread1618-510266


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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[SnTMan]

Yeah, so the same governments that cannot adequately provide for their citizens most basic needs thru well known means are somehow supposed to adjust the weather thru completely unproven means.

These lawsuits are just grift on a large scale. Who ought to be sued is the climate change industrial complex that is terrifying these kids. Its pure evil.

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand

 

[TugboatEng]

I remember when the European human rights courts were trying Nazi war criminals. I guess they ran out... Oh wait, one just turned up in Canada.

 

[dik]

ya... Turdeau's friend...

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[CWB1]

There are literally an infinite number of ridiculously extreme possibilities. If you're going to start posting all of them, this will become a very long and useless thread.

Will become...future tense?

thread1618-496010: Things are Starting to Warm Up.
thread1618-496614: Things are Starting to Warm Up Part II
thread1618-497017: Things are Starting to Warm Up Part III
thread1618-497239: Things are Starting to Warm/Heat Up Part IV
thread1618-497988: Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part V
thread1618-498967: Things are Starting to Heat Up Part VI
thread1618-501135: Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part VII
thread1618-504850: Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part VIII
thread1618-506948: Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part IX
thread1618-507973: Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part X
thread1618-510266: Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part XI

 

[dik]

I don't like the term infinite... an anecdote from about 30 years back. My wife and I were shopping for a new stove. We went into the Sears in Pickering Village, Ontario to look at stoves... a salesman 'pounced on us' and started telling us about the stoves. He noted that one of the stoves we were looking at had infinite temperature control. I informed him that if we were to live forever, we would never be able to appreciate that feature. It went right over his head...

Even the geologic time scale, is finite...

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[GregLocock]

Meanwhile back on UHI

Roy Spencer has a look at UHI and how it (a) increases the average temperature trend for the USA, and (b) results in scary headlines for dik to post about temperatures in cities in summer.

https://www.drroyspencer.com/2023/0...ted-by-100-from-the-urban-heat-island-effect/

The thing is, UHI is real, and it does result in higher temperatures. But it is not CO2 related. So using UHI affected temperature trends to drive the CO2 narrative is misleading at best.

Cheers

Greg Locock


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[TugboatEng]

Infinite goes both ways. Things can be infinitely small as well. From a controls perspective infinite refers to an analog system and finite refers to digital. A potentiometer has an infinite number of positions it can park on while a switch has limited steps.

With that said, I don't think that infinite temperature control is much of a benefit for a stove. That would typically imply some type of capillary tube type heat control which is about as crude as it gets. Then again, there are a lot of stoves with Robertshaw "infinite" controls still running out there.

 

[BridgeSmith]

I don't like the term infinite.

Ok, I changed it to "nearly infinite". Now can we address the absurd fearmongering drivel you posted?

 

[LionelHutz]

Fixed it for you.

Who ought to be sued is the climate change industrial complex that is terrifying these kids and dik. Its pure evil.

 

[SnTMan]

Heh

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand

 

[dik]

Some communities rely on ice melt for their water supply...

"Switzerland's glaciers have lost a further 4% of their volume this year - the second biggest loss ever - after last year's record melt of 6%.

The statistics come in the annual report of the Swiss Glacier Monitoring Network (Glamos), whose team of researchers have been monitoring 176 of Switzerland's 1,400 glaciers for years.

They warn it may now be too late to save many of the alpine ice fields, even if climate targets are met.

"It's terrible," said the Glamos chief.

In just two years, Switzerland's glaciers have lost 10% of their total volume - as much as they lost in the three decades between 1960 and 1990.

Glaciologists measuring the ice take no comfort in the fact that this year's melt is slightly smaller than last year's record.

"It was still the second most negative year since measurements started," Matthias Huss, the head of Glamos, told the BBC. "It's terrible to see that this extreme of last year is just repeating."

The researchers say the loss is due to consecutive very warm summers, and last winter's very low snowfall. If these weather patterns continue, they say, the thaw will only accelerate.

Some of Switzerland's smaller glaciers have already disappeared."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66950328

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

Maybe things will cool off in October...

"The world's September temperatures were the warmest on record, breaking the previous high by a huge margin, according to the EU climate service.

Last month was 0.93C warmer than the average September temperature between 1991-2020, and 0.5C hotter than the previous record set in 2020.

Ongoing emissions of warming gases in addition to the El Niño weather event are driving the heat, experts believe.

Some scientists said they were shocked by the scale of the increase.

They say 2023 is now "on track" to be the warmest on record."

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-67017021

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

October is our summer in the SF Bay Area.

 

[dik]

I trust you had a nice warm summer... one of the warmest on record, it would seem.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Negative, it's been a very cool and wet year.

 

[dik]

overall, according to the data, it was warmer everywhere else... and if you were cool, other places were much warmer to adjust the data average...

and from Copernicus...

"September was yet another blistering hot month around the world and the fourth month in a row that was its hottest on record, a new report shows."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-...d-by-an-extraordinary-amount-report-1.6589737

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

" adjust the data"? Is that some type of Freudian slip?

 

[dik]

Not at all... if the data says the average temperature is 'such and such' and your weather has been cooler, then it means that other places have been more hot...

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[SnTMan]

And that's the weather from Lake Woeisus, where all the temperatures are above average

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand

 

[dik]

'...and the heat goes on, yes, the heat goes on' with apologies to Sonny and Cher...

"The first time this happened in the modern era was for a few days in December 2015, when politicians were signing the deal on the 1.5C threshold.

Since then the limit has been repeatedly broken, typically only for short periods.

In 2016, influenced by a strong El Niño event - a natural climate shift that tends to increase global temperatures - the world saw around 75 days that went above that mark.

But BBC analysis of data from the Copernicus Climate Change Service shows that, up to 2 October, around 86 days in 2023 have been over 1.5C warmer than the pre-industrial average. That beats the 2016 record well before the end of the year.

There is some uncertainty in the exact number of days that have breached the 1.5C threshold, because the numbers reflect a global average which can come with small data discrepancies. But the margin by which 2023 has already passed 2016 figures gives confidence the record has already been broken.

"The fact that we are reaching this 1.5C anomaly daily, and for a longer number of days, is concerning," said Dr Lazenby."

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66857354

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik