Things are Starting to Warm Up Part III 6

[dik]

For earlier thread, see

thread1618-496010: Things are Starting to Warm Up.
thread1618-496614: Things are Starting to Warm Up Part II

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Guest102023]

hokie,
Don't know him outside of here. Consider it might also be a she/her or they/them
Agreement on climate change is not an unusual thing here; it has been the norm for a while (doesn't mean our politicians can't be stupid about it). Outside of the 51st state of Alberta I don't hear professionals still debating it. Must be that woke socialism stuff they put in the water here.

Tug,
Glad you finally admit I am Superman! (BTW another Canadian invention).
That's funny, because Fun Fact: I actually considered 'Man of Steel' for my handle, and even putting it on my business card.
Perry White sounds like the right role for you in this climate change melodrama...

Come to think of it, has anyone ever seen TugboatEng and Lex Luthor in the same room? There you go!


"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[Guest102023]

dik,

A senior meteorologist was on NPR this morning explaining that subtle changes are affecting the jetstream, causing high pressure systems (those are the hot ones) to get stuck in position for many days. Another thing he says the climate model underestimated. Humidity is also higher, making it even less bearable.
So many large heat waves happening concurrently around the planet; it would have to be wishful thinking or outright denial to imagine this does not herald a New Normal.



"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[TugboatEng]

I wonder if NPR follows their own guidelines when they bring these guests on.

https://www.npr.org/sections/memmos/2017/05/30/606393888/-a-cautionary-tip-sheet-about-think-tanks

 

[Guest102023]

Conspiracy at the highest levels...tell us, who do you think is bribing this scientist?

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[rb1957]

normally yes, but in this case we can identify a target problem.

1) In order to combat climate change, I propose to reduce CO2 emissions by ...

2) In order to mitigate the effects of climate change, I propose to protect against sealevel rise by ...

or better ...

To protect the future, I propose we ...

now we have a whole different set of issues to address ...
a) develop offworld colonies ?
b) develop the underdeveloped economies ?
c) develop new energy sources (fusion) ?
d) develop better "renewable" energy sources ?
...

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[dik]

I understand that's the cause of the recent hot spell in Europe and the US... I posted a link to that above, somewhere...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

Sorry rb... it's far greater than that. We have to seriously look at our life style and cut back. We also have to find 'real' alternatives to energy. The disposable attitude has to go... and, that's just the beginning...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[hokie66]

Too many people, and growing. Solutions to that?

 

[Tomfh]

The usual answer - less of the other people.

 

[rb1957]

...
see Ukraine experiment !?

sorry rb... it's far greater than that. We have to seriously look at our life style and cut back.]

ok dik, propose that as an engineering solution. eg stop burning FFs today. This will lead to an economic crash that make the great Depression look like a picnic. Ensuing wars and civil unrest will probably lead to a 1/2-ing of the world's population, and possibly another 1/2-ing as crop yields adjust.

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[hokie66]

Ukraine, chinavirus, that's a start...

 

[rb1957]

and now monkey pox ?

how did the closing narration for "Rocky Horror Picture Show" go ?

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[dik]

or The Firesign Theatre, "Beat the Reaper"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3zZ_ih0Jpc

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[hokie66]

Stealing an idea from another part of the site, perhaps more guns can be a part of the solution. Reduce the population in crowded cities.

 

[dik]

Hokie...
From an earlier post (2-1/2 years back) on another site...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

The approach that's being taken might amount to that... it's too difficult to predict. Mother nature may not be so kind as a simple bullet.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Tomfh]

Sorry rb... it's far greater than that. We have to seriously look at our life style and cut back. We also have to find 'real' alternatives to energy. The disposable attitude has to go... and, that's just the beginning...

All things considered I agree with you. The rate at which we're consuming energy and other resources isn't sustainable and is doing a lot of damage to the planet.

My concern is the ones proposing the solutions are invariably the sort of people who know what's best for all of us. The sort of people will not hear a word of dissent. The sort of people like XR and Occupy and their media supporters who think they have the right to block me as I go about my private business:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/24/climate-sceptics-protest-emergency-activists

 

[dik]

Yes tom, one of my concerns is that it could get really ugly as people starve and die of thirst... and move to neighbouring lands...

Just a recent post...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...llion-Americans-extreme-weather-warnings.html

and what if it gets a lot worse? We don't have a clue about how this will end, or even if it will end. The earlier link may be a pre-cursor:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul...

My son was unhappy about me using his one eMail statement as my current tagline, but I paid him some money and he is happy with me using it...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Watch them blame this one on climate change.

https://gcaptain.com/shippings-new-esg-rules-could-starve-millions/

 

[dik]

Why would anyone want to reduce emissions... the idea is preposterous... [sarky hat off] It may be one of many things that will have to change... all types of transportation may experience a few 'big bumps' in the future.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik