Boeing 737 Max8 Aircraft Crashes and Investigations [Part 9] 2

[dik]

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Looks like Boeing is still having fun...

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58483150

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[dik]

I would suggest that it's not functioning...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[1503-44]

Yeah. That's the active fault theory. Lots of little quakes are better than one big one. The Anatolian fault does seem to have zones of high power that have traveled west along the fault. Although I was in two 4.0 earthquakes right under us in the Ankara area during design phase, one 5.0 hit to the east at Erzincan during 2003 construction. I was taking a leak at 1:15 AM when that one happened. There have been more well to the west since, but I think its too early to call the eastern part totally inactive. The fault is thousands of km long and has been generally active for thousands of years. I dont think it's going away. We crossed it in the 1920 earthquake zone.

It's the ridge and valley zig-zagging down the center of the picture.

A black swan to a turkey is a white swan to the butcher.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

its outside the MBA's 3 year bonus zone so they won't care

 

[1503-44]

Saw the movie. McDonald Douglas gets the Black Swan trophy. Updating my signature quote.

A black swan to a turkey is a white swan to the butcher ... and to Boeing.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

The Boeing test pilot found not guilty.

 

[RedSnake]

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[dik]

The way things are going, I'm not surprised...

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[debodine]

I am not a lawyer, just trying to think logically about this situation with the Chief Test Pilot (CTP).

Given that the FAA was deceived then one of the statements below must be true. I say given because I do not have access to evidence as to whether the FAA was actually deceived, incompetent, deliberately blind or some combination:

1. The CTP participated in deceiving the FAA.
2. The CTP did not participate in deceiving the FAA.

Clearly the legal system indicated the belief based on evidence that statement 2 is true. However, as I see it, regardless of whether statement 1 is true or statement 2 is true, it is impossible for the CTP on his own or any other person on their own to hide the entire case from Boeing management and the FAA. Therefore, if criminal behavior occurred there should have been additional persons indicted for crimes.

 

[1503-44]

Or #3. Insufficient evidence to prove, or disprove either of those, or to prosecute anyone else.

A black swan to a turkey is a white swan to the butcher ... and to Boeing.

 

[Eufalconimorph]

Or #4, jury decided to nullify. Less likely, but possible.

 

[IRstuff]

Or #4, jury decided to nullify. Less likely, but possible.

Or, if the US, the jury deadlocked 11:1 to convict because one nimrod didn't understand the process.

TTFN (ta ta for now)
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[dik]

Trouble in paradise... gonna get worse, I suspect...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?

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[dik]

It's just starting to get interesting again...

https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/all-news/article-711568

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

When a corporation goes to the news they're looking for advertising or to pressure politicians. They're never there to express their concerns.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

It shouldn't be a political decision it should be up to the FAA and other regulator's.

The 10 is driving the changes to the other variants. Which have to be done.

737 is now dead anyway. It's utterly pointless enforcing this law. Should have been starting certification process.

Quiet what Boeing is going to do to replace it is anyone's guess

 

[TugboatEng]

Considering the number of military aircraft based on the 707-737 airframes I would assume this is Boeing's attempt to get federal funding to build a new design. This has worked well in the distant past but I don't think it's such a good idea with today's politics.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

After the fuss with the fight with airbus about government funding with both sides found to be taking the piss I can't see that working these days.

 

[TugboatEng]

As a maritimer, we have the Maritime Administration. They cooperated with private OPERATORS to produce classes of vessels that worked well for their service and the subsidies meant there were no corners cut. Today's MARAD cooperates with the BUILDERS to ensure every corner is cut.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

The subsidy fight was Boeing created much like the c series bun fight.

Both times it has backfired collosally. They are now cut off from government help. And the c series is now the Airbus A220 and everyone wants them.

And to boot it was pretty easy for airbus to get round the sanctions anyway.

Pure MBA and legal greed.

 

[IRstuff]

It's a game of chicken; whoever blinks first loses.

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