Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part V 6

[dik]

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

You may need high speed transportation when the planes and airports shut down... specially if you have long travel distances and a large population... You just don't know how far climate change will reach... and what it will affect. They seem to use lesser high speed trains very effectively in Europe and Asia for bulk people transportation.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Tomfh]

So setting ambiguous net-zero goals with no real plan for the issues that go along with that other than "we'll figure it out"

It’s nuts, isn’t it? It’d be like if they tried to achieve Kennedy’s moon goal by launching people to the moon before they’d figured out how to actually get to and land on the moon. “Oh never mind, they can figure it out along the way”.


And here we are, launching our societies at the Net Zero moon, busily shutting down traditional power generation, hoping for the best. And now our spaceship is signalling it’s low on power, because no one actually calculated how much fuel we’d need, and the lights are all starting to turn off. But never mind, let’s just push on to Net Zero. Let’s turn on the Electric Vehicle systems. We know we’ll need them on the Net Zero moon. Can’t give up on Net Zero. It’s important to stay the course.

Never mind that Chinese rocket that seems to be carrying a lot more fuel than us, and is accelerating past us.

 

[dik]

It maybe starts with their education system... at very least and a bunch of other things. A bit of an eye opener.

https://socialistchina.org/2022/06/19/chinas-long-war-on-poverty/

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

The irony of using the word education and following with that link...

About that high speed rail. In most countries our railroads are built in lumber, locally sourced aggregate and rails built from recyclable steel. What about high speed rail? What about all of the specialized materials required? The additional CO2 footprint of using refined concrete rail ballast? What about the material for the tube? How about all of the horsepower it takes to make a train go fast? It seems hardly the ideal solution.

 

[dik]

Like it or not, it seems to be working and was a response to Tom's reference to 'Chinese rocket'... As far as being the 'boogy man' the Chinese cities and infrastructure are not a whole bunch different that the US in developed areas, and they are rapidly improving in the rural areas. Any Chinese engineers I've met that have been educated in China are very good. Two of them that I worked with for a decade were working as structural engineers and became registered at my prompting had studied as Mechanical engineers in China.

As far as high speed rail, it may be that things will have to change to accommodate the added requirements. I have no idea of how much or what the end result will be... but we'll find out in the not too distant future. It will be interesting to see how the world and the US, each, address carbon footprint... I suspect strangely different. I don't know what happens if someone 'lags behind'.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

There have been talented engineers from
the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. What do you mean when you say you met a talented engineer from China? Bad countries have a history of producing good engineers. Regardless of the system in place, some people will thrive and some people won't. Here in the USA, cheap energy, and cheap food have allowed the greatest number to thrive and that makes the rest of the world bitter.

 

[hokie66]

This forum is supposed to be about solutions. Does anyone have solutions for obtaining all the raw and exotic materials that are required to support the new forms of energy and engines? How is the energy exhausted in all the mining required tallied with the 'net zero' calculation?

Doomsday speculation is not helping.

 

[dik]

thanks Hokie...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

You keep thanking other users for calling you out on your posts and then you continue on posting them.

 

[dik]

Tug... it was going in a bad direction and Hokie corrected it. The material I post is not in error or false, to the best of my knowledge. There may be some possible mitigation and this type of approach may become more commonplace...

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2022/09/01/lighting-a-fire-under-geothermal

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

California is making some aggressive moves. This may be the type of action required, but it may be fraught with peril...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/climate/california-lawmakers-climate-legislation.html

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Now you're posting stuff we can't even view to offer our criticisms on.

 

[dik]

I'll see if I can find the NYT article... didn't know it was behind a paywall. Maybe...

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/cli...cle_cd977d46-2a1d-11ed-ad95-7bc060b77ad9.html

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

More paywall, it's as if they want to get approval from the their loyalists before they unload it on the general population.

https://calmatters.org/environment/2022/09/california-climate-change-legislature/

Yay, more traffic congesting toll lanes. Thicker plastic bags at the grocery store. More money spent on recycling that doesn't happen. More sea walls for Malibu.

 

[dik]

Neither of them are paywalls on my system. There are likely to be a bunch of miss-steps on the journey...You'd think that tracking change would be the least costly and maybe one of the important things. With fewer cars on the road, it may not be so congested...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

But they keep doubling down on the missteps. The CRV, recycling subsidy, is just a wealth transfer from the gov't to private corporations.

Everything they do literally increases pollution at my expense and that pisses me off. Meanwhile, you peddle their nonsense for what reason?

 

[dik]

Snakeoil salesmen and profiteers... just watch them line up.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

So you support them? You sure do peddle a lot of their advertisements.

For example, you provide links from Interesting Engineering. Their editor and chief is Jolene Creighton who also peddles non fungible tokens in her side ventures.

https://nftnow.com/author/jcreighton/

A real snake oil saleswomen.

 

[dik]

I believe you are mistaken, sir...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

You have FIVE threads dedicated to it now.