Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part XI 10

[dik]

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

Only the groove is getting deeper...

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

...another potential problem.

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When torrential rainfall in August 2022 pushed the Pearl River in Mississippi to surge well beyond its banks, floodwaters spilled into the suburbs of Jackson and led an already-hobbled water treatment plant to fail.

It was the final stroke in what experts described as a yearslong issue in the making, which eventually left tens of thousands of residents in the city without clean drinking water for weeks.

What happened in Jackson, experts say, is a bellwether for what’s to come if America continues to kick the can down the road in addressing its aging and crumbling water infrastructure. The climate crisis threatens to make those issues even more pressing.

When sea levels rise, summers become hotter or heavy rains lead to more flooding, the country’s water infrastructure – largely built last century and only designed to last roughly 75 years – will be more strained than ever, threatening a system vital to human life.

MIAMI, FLORIDA - MAY 31: FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell addresses the media from the National Hurricane Center on May 31, 2023 in Miami, Florida. With the official start of the Atlantic hurricane season on June 1, FEMA and NOAA officials spoke to the media and encouraged people to prepare for the upcoming hurricane season. (Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images)
In a record year of catastrophes, FEMA's disaster fund is slipping into the red before hurricane season even peaks
At the rate our climate is changing, America’s water infrastructure is not equipped to handle the challenges to come, said Erik Olson, the senior strategic director for health and food with the National Resources Defense Council.

“America’s water system relies on last century’s infrastructure that often can’t protect our health from hazardous contaminants,” Olson told CNN. “And our outdated system is completely unprepared for this century’s challenges of intense heat, drought and flooding.”"

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/02/us/water-infrastructure-failure-us-cities-climate

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

So it's just noise now?

 

[dik]

Nope... maybe a deeper rut.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[SwinnyGG]

The author of dik's last article, Chelsea Harvey

The one who wrote an article for politico?

Are you confused about what a journalist is, or did you conveniently choose to ask a question about zoology degrees while you ignored the masters in journalism possessed by this journalist you want to discredit??

In addition... do you not see the problem created for your position by continued attempts to discredit counterarguments with a fallacious 'Appeal to Credentials' argument?

 

[JoshPlumSE]

I'd say a degree in zoology makes her way, way more qualified to talk about science than most journalist that try to do so.... LOL.

But, even a journalist that's knowledgeable in a field needs to rely on multiple backed sources for what they report. It's just sad that we have so few actual journalists these days.

 

[TugboatEng]

I targeted the zoology degree because I thought it was more relevant to climatology than journalism.

I'm still trying to figure out what credentials are required to be considered a climate scientist or "expert". For example, to earn the title of "engineer" it's generally accepted that one must complete a degree in engineering from an ABET accredited school.

 

[dik]

Quite often a degree indicates an academic approach to things... going beyond the field of study... It's not like some people stopping to think, and forgetting to re-start.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[SwinnyGG]

I'm still trying to figure out what credentials are required to be considered a climate scientist or "expert"

So in your mind any journalist who writes an article about a climate related topic must meet your requirement for qualification as a ‘climate scientist’?

 

[TugboatEng]

Have you ever read an article written by a journalist about something you are very knowledgeable in? Maybe an expert? How did you feel about that journalist after reading the article?

 

[hokie66]

I have to agree here with Tug about journalists in general. Several times in my life, I have given interviews about projects, and have never seen one reported correctly in print.

 

[SwinnyGG]

@tugboateng you should just come out and say that there is no one on earth who is, in your non expert opinion, qualified to comment on climate in either scientific literature or the press. Your continuous no true Scotsman approach to any reporting that’s posted is tired at this point.

I have no great level of faith in the average quality of current journalism. Want to make statements about how the quality of much journalism is not great, no problem. I won’t disagree.

But by implying that every journalist must meet your as yet unstated definition of expertise in every topic they might ever report on makes any journalism impossible. And you don’t just do it with journalists, you do it with highly qualified actual scientists who are actively engaged in relevant fields of study, which you yourself are not qualified to comment on per your own logic.

 

[TugboatEng]

@tugboateng you should just come out and say that there is no one on earth who is,

If you talk about warming without recognizing enthalpy you're not an expert. That is all. It's not my fault no one on earth that speaks of global warming recognizes enthalpy.

 

[GregLocock]

Having had occasional dealings with motoring journalists my faith in 'technical' articles in general is rather low.

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[SwinnyGG]

If you talk about warming without recognizing enthalpy you're not an expert.

I don't think you understand what enthalpy is

 

[dik]

India, China and California on a race to the bottom?

"India has stepped up the use of coal to generate electricity in a bid to stop outages caused by lower hydroelectricity output, as an increase in renewables is struggling to keep pace with record power demand.

It is unusual for India’s electricity use to spike in August, when temperatures are lower due to the annual monsoon that runs between June and September. Demand typically peaks in May, when Indians crank up air-conditioners to beat the heat and industries operate without rain-related disruptions.

However, the driest August in more than a century has resulted in power generation surging to a record 162.7 billion kilowatt hours (units), an analysis by the Reuters news agency of data from the federal grid operator Grid India showed.

Coal’s share in power output rose to 66.7 percent in August – the highest for the month in six years, according to a Reuters analysis of government data. Lower rainfall led to the share of hydropower in overall output plunging to 14.8 percent, compared with 18.1 percent in the same period last year.

The government has repeatedly defended the use of coal, citing lower per capita emissions compared with richer nations and rising renewable energy output."

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2...or-power-as-dry-weather-sparks-blackout-fears

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[CWB1]

"Journalists" are welcome to publish facts so long as they do so ethically. Science that has been tested, published, and the testing independently recreated is fact. Quoted statements from an interview are fact. Publishing the education and experience of interviewees is ethical. Unproven theories are not fact, claiming otherwise is unethical. Failing to publish interviewees' education and experience is unethical. Making vague, misleading statements like "scientists say..." is unethical.

IMHO unethical journalists should be criminally charged with fraud, they intentionally deceive others for profit.

 

[dik]

This is a bad idea, I think. They would spend the rest of their lives in court, due to special interest groups. It might be better to improve the education system so people are a little more discerning. Governments don't want a population that is educated.

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-Dik

 

[GregLocock]

Says discerning dik, who's never seen a scare story he isn't afraid to repost.

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[TugboatEng]

This article showed up today. Scientists are confounded by the sudden appearance of gaseous urea in the atmosphere. Not one mention of Diesel Exhaust Fluid which has been recently mandated for many marine diesel engines. It's also another terribly written article and I'm not really sure what it's conclusion was.

https://scitechdaily.com/profound-c...over-urea-in-the-atmosphere/?expand_article=1