Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part XIII 27

[dik]

For earlier threads, see:
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thread1618-496614
thread1618-497017
thread1618-497239
thread1618-497988
thread1618-498967
thread1618-501135
thread1618-504850
thread1618-506948
thread1618-507973
thread1618-510266
thread1618-512015


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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

Interesting court ruling...

"OXFORD, ENGLAND - Having a safe climate is becoming more of a human right globally with this week's European court decision that says countries must better protect people from climate change, something warming-hit residents of the Global South long knew, said former Ireland President Mary Robinson.

Robinson, who was the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, praised Tuesday's mixed court decision as precedent-setting and change-triggering. The European Court of Human Rights sided with Swiss senior women saying their government wasn't doing enough to protect them from climate shocks, but dismissed similar complaints from Portuguese youth and France's mayor on technical grounds."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-...n-right-former-un-rights-chief-says-1.6844467

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Iran is on the UN commission for human rights... Do you think this organization has any legitimacy?

 

[dik]

What's the point, the US is also on this commission?

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Without the US, human rights as you know it would not exist. Try being trans in Iran or China and see where that gets you.

 

[dik]

Do you really believe that?

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[BridgeSmith]

Do you really believe that?

If you don't, you haven't been paying attention.

 

[GregLocock]

China has a workforce of half a million slaves making solar panels. The Uighur. They arrest foreign journalists and release them when politically suitable. Iran is busy flogging or stoning women who are not correctly dressed (and a lot more). I'm a bit surprised that anyone who follows the news concentrates on a stupid court case rather than knowing what Iran and China are up to.

Cheers

Greg Locock


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[TugboatEng]

Dik, what planet do you live on? Pluto?

 

[BridgeSmith]

Hey Tug, haven't you heard Pluto isn't planet anymore?

 

[TugboatEng]

It's as if science isn't certain.

 

[JoshPlumSE]

Without the US, human rights as you know it would not exist. Try being trans in Iran or China and see where that gets you.

Do you really believe that?

Dik -

The US has made plenty of questionable decisions that have led to bloodshed. And, we do tend to be the most aggressive nation in the world (in terms of being willing to go to war). But, we really do a pretty good job with respect to Human Rights.... I'd argue that our entire society was born out of the desire to establish some basic, inalienable human rights.

I'm not sure what the "history" of Human rights really is. But, I have to think that if the US didn't win WWII then most of the world would be under regimes that did not respect human rights very much at all.

Japan raped China (and most of the Pacific) brutally. But, after WWII Japan changed dramatically under the leadership of the US and Admiral MacArthur. I think that Asia (and the Pacific Island nations as well) is in much, much better shape due to the US (at least in terms of Human Rights) than it would have been otherwise.

Then it's safe to say that Germany was a horrible abuser of human rights in WWII as well. Isn't it? Though you might now say that West Germany became one of the great beacons of respecting human rights in the decades that followed. Again, I believe the US is largely responsible for the reconstruction of West Germany post WWII. Wouldn't you agree?

Then let's talk about the Soviet Bloc nations and Communist China. Post WWII they were clearly the worst Human Rights abusers of the last 70 years. Right? The US was the main Super Power that was opposing this during that time.

Are you so brainwashed by whatever anti-US ideology that's been affecting our education that you cannot see these obvious historical truths?

 

[hokie66]

Right on, Josh. But General McArthur would not like being called a Navy man.

 

[JoshPlumSE]

Right on, Josh. But General McArthur would not like being called a Navy man.

OMG, I guess I was conflating him and Admiral Nimitz. [LOL]

 

[Tmoose]

"if the US didn't win WWII".

After the US primed the pump for Stalin with Studebaker trucks , I'd say Russia played a really BIG part in defeating the Nazis.
Admittedly and undoubtedly Stalin had his own agendas all along.

I guess I do too.

 

[JoshPlumSE]

I'd say Russia played a really BIG part in defeating the Nazis.

For sure.... Though I'd phrase it a little differently. Hitler shot himself in the foot when he decided he wanted to defeat Russia as well. I guess he must have thought that the Communist totalitarian government was his greatest threat.

Also, I don't think Russia did anything about Japan in WWII. Did it? At least not until after Germany had surrendered and after the US had basically defeated Imperial Japan.

 

[dik]

Copernicus Climate Atlas:

"As the world struggles to cope with the impacts of climate change, accessible tools to understand our changing climate have never been more urgently needed. Launched on 20 February by the Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S), the Copernicus Interactive Climate Atlas (C3S Atlas) is a powerful new tool designed to help policymakers and other climate service users to analyse and interpret climate data. With the upcoming publication of the European State of the Climate report by C3S, we are excited to discuss this new tool that can help users develop evidence-based policies and strategies to work to mitigate the consequences of and adapt to global warming. "

https://www.copernicus.eu/en/news/n...climate-atlas-new-guide-understanding-climate

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Oh great, now policy makers won't need to understand the drivel the spread. They can get it fed to them from a single shadowy source.

 

[Tmoose]

"Artificial Intelligence" come quickly to mind.

 

[dik]

Cold water upwelling:

"Research: Cold ocean events causing mass marine mortalities

Scientists are concerned about the threat to the climate from cold ocean events. Researchers say these extreme events are causing mass mortalities in oceans around the world. Michael Holmes speaks with Ryan Daly, a scientist with the Oceanographic Research Institute."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/21/worl...te-ryan-daly-intv-042101aseg2-cnni-world-fast

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Dik, remember you need to share a thought and not just a link.