Things are Starting to Warm Up Part II 24

[dik]

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

We suffer from extreme climates, low population and long travel distances... it's easy to understand why... I keep making excuses for it... but we're not 'lily white'.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[Guest102023]

brimstoner - I'm not engaging you, you clearly only want to disparage and attack others here.

That would be funny if it were no so disappointingly upside down. Help me out here by pointing to an example that is not demonstably true and therefore warranted. (Sadly truth has become an endangered species on eng-tips.)

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[dik]

I just keep posting 'anecdotes' that indicate climate change may be in the process. Only time will tell what the end result will be. I suspect it will not be good and will be pleasantly surprised if nothing happens. For my kids, etc.I'm concerned things may be a lot worse... we'll have to see how it plays out.

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[IRstuff]

Seems like a lot of engineers don't do RMECA

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[hokie66]

Probably not, whatever that means.

 

[Tomfh]

The important thing is the carbon footprin

That’s exactly what the graph shows. Per capita carbon footprint. That’s the vertical axis on the graph. Isn’t that your preferred metric? Per capita emissions?

It shows per capita carbon emissions graphed against a countries wealth. The linear relationship shows the way in which carbon emissions are largely a function of a countries wealth. Hence why more strident climate activists are calling for de-industrialisation and a radical reduction in our standard of living.

As for the spheres, they are simply a secondary piece of information in the graph; population.

 

[GregLocock]

Does that graph capture the imported CO2 emissions? For example if yo buy a thing made in China who gets the CO2 assigned to them?

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[Guest102023]

R adical
M alicious
E nergy
C onservation
A ctivists
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R epublican
M others
E ncouraging
C razy
A ctions
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I am acronym challenged to begin with, so help me out here. Seems even google has not heard of that one.


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[Guest102023]

calling for de-industrialisation and a radical reduction in our standard of living

Those things being linked is not an immutable law of nature, but believing they are is the biggest stumbling block for many posters here. Try to imagine other ways of living than the only one you have known.

If de-industrialisation means ingesting and absorbing less chemical pollutants, then in one way at least my quality of life has improved. (I prefer that metric over ’standard of living’, which is strongly linked to monetary wealth only.)

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[Guest102023]

We are down the ’per capita’ rabbit hole here. That quickly devolves into a political argument between nations, and a rationale for some to do less than they could and should.

The planet has absolutely no interest in that metric.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[TugboatEng]

What do you want to discuss, brim?

 

[Guest102023]

You’re trying to be condescending TBE, but it’s not coming off for you.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[dik]

I think that hits the nail on the head... my excuse for doing little, less or nothing.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

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[Guest102023]

dik,

We saw those shenanigans play out in Canada under the Harper regime starting around 2005. He was only interested in serving his Alberta base.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[TugboatEng]

That quickly devolves into a political argument between nations, and a rationale for some to do less than they could and should.

Sometimes less is more...

 

[Guest102023]

Well there’s another misapplied cliché!

Unless you mean `less carbon footprint means more chance of not burning’.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[TugboatEng]

Acknowledge the carbon cost developing carbon-free energy.

 

[Tomfh]

Those things being linked is not an immutable law of nature

The data suggests otherwise. Seems your commitment to data and scientific rigour goes to water once we’re discussing the hard link between economic development and associated emissions.

 

[Guest102023]

Tomfh, you win the prize for Epic Point Miss of the Week!!

That was not a data-based statement! (Does everything need to be?) The fact you cannot understand what I wrote just underscores my point, that our commitment to our ’lifestyle’ bears the hallmarks of deep quasi-religious belief, and you seem like a true believer.

Spare a thought for my facial muscles please; having to explain such things makes me cringe.

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[dik]

brims... it hasn't changed... like the US, they are still playing to the tune of big oil, and still thinking of doing stuff for the oil sands and pipelines projects.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik