Things are Starting to Warm Up Part II 24

[dik]

For earlier thread, see

thread1618-496010

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[hokie66]

Yep, it is just DO SOMETHING!! Do anything.

 

[Guest102023]

Greg,

You say "think of the children" like it’s a bad thing.

What should we be thinking of instead?

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[Guest102023]

I’m driving along the interstate and I sense a slight vibration. It’s not too bad so I carry on at the same speed, but the shaking gets worse. Since I am ignorant about vibration causes it shouldn’t concern me.

Should I follow the precautionary principle by reducing my speed, or blame it on gremlins and carry on like nothing bad could happen?

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[Tomfh]

Should I follow the precautionary principle by reducing my speed, or blame it on gremlins and carry on like nothing bad could happen?

People aren't saying to gradually reduce speed. They're saying to slam on the brakes. Pretty good way to cause a highway pile up.

 

[Tomfh]

tom... there is a wide gap of what I suspect strongly, and know for certain......I'm convinced that we have caused global changes, but I don't know what the end result will be.

I agree completely. We have burned a lot of fossil fuels, and there is a corresponding increase in atmospheric CO2. Barring some other explanation the extra CO2 is due to human emissions. There is a corresponding net increase in temperature of about 1 degree.

All that being said, it is unscientific to attribute cold weather to global warming and to pretend that the theory predicts an increase in cold weather too. Climate alarmists predicting hot weather and then pointing to a snow storm and saying "See! What did we tell you!" is why there is so much skepticism towards climate alarm.

 

[dik]

The net effect is global warming. The name you should be using is Climate Change. The results can be unpredictable, but the end result will be climate change.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

That's almost as silly as doing nothing...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

If Lake Mead drops another 100' it will no longer be able to produce electricity and if it drops 150' the Colorado will cease to flow... It currently provides water of 40million people, as well as the agriculture, and hydro for 1.3million people. What sort of cost benefit do you do for that? I don't know if it will happen, but there is the potential.

See the attached...

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2865/a-degree-of-concern-why-global-temperatures-matter/

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[hokie66]

Don't you worry about that. Ol' Joe is on the case.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/20/biden-spews-co2-on-trip-to-massachusetts-for-speech-on-climate-change/

 

[dik]

If that's the case, you might really start worrying...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Tomfh]

The net effect is global warming. The name you should be using is Climate Change.

Yes I know the semantic games. It's been going going on since the 1980s. "Greenhouse effect" vs. "global warming" vs. "climate change". Not to mention all those people who feel that more exciting phrases like "Climate Crisis" and "Global heating" are the more appropriate terminology:

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ng-the-language-it-uses-about-the-environment

 

[dik]

and things have changed in the last 4 decades, and not for the better...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Tomfh]

and things have changed in the last 4 decades, and not for the better...

Things are better in 2022 than what they said they'd be. Hence this new strategy of reframing statistically normal weather events as proof of climate disaster. Floods in 1900, 1910, 1940, 1950, 1980, 1990: NORMAL. The same size flood today: CLIMATE CHANGE.

 

[Guest102023]

I thought my analogy was pretty idiot proof, so it looks like I overestimated.

My mistake for insufficiently dumbing it down.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[TugboatEng]

I appreciate the new, more humble attitude.

 

[Guest102023]

I think you’ll appreciate the dumbing down approach even more

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[TugboatEng]

How do you expect people to learn when you dumb everything down?

 

[rb1957]

the problem with your analogy is that it is too simple. What's the cost of slowing down ? What's the cost of stopping ??

The cost of stopping burning FFs is enormous ... so much so that we don't mention it, although it is the appropriate precautionary measure if burning FFs is (maybe) going to cause the destruction of our environment. And some say that even this isn't enough.



another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[dik]

Depending on the people, you may have to, and even slow down your typing so they can catch up.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

In what manner?

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik