Things are Starting to Warm Up Part II 24

[dik]

For earlier thread, see

thread1618-496010

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Politically, things have degraded greatly in the past 18 months. Environmentally, we're having a mild to cool summer here in California. As someone who works on the waterfront I have noticed zero warming and zero sea level rise over the previous 18 years. I do admit the last 2-3 years have been windier than previous.

 

[Tomfh]

In what manner?

Climate alarmism has a long history of issuing exaggerated predictions. Reality generally fails to match their doom and gloom forecasts.

 

[Guest102023]

Climate alarmism has a long history of issuing exaggerated predictions.

Examples please.



"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[Guest102023]

Reality generally fails to match their doom and gloom forecasts.

Whose reality? Yours? Rupert Murdoch’s? Real reality?

We are seeing ‘doom and gloom’ playing out in real time. It’s impossible to dress up IPCC projections and current events in any way resembling ’nice’ or ‘cheerful’. Are you saying those dedicated folks are merely suffering from bad attitudes or defective personalities, and that that is the real problem here?

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[LionelHutz]

LOL, I've read and heard lots of doom and gloom that hasn't come true yet. I continually see weather events blamed on climate change, with further research finding that it was the second worst event right after the one that occurred 80-100 years ago. Spewing this alarmist BS needs to stop if you want to be taken more seriously.

Anyone recall a number of years back when the earth quit warming for a bit. There were lots of claims and explanations about how you can't use short term measurement trends as an indication of climate change slowing down. But, a few days of hot weather sure leads to a huge amount of climate change accelerating claims.

Shell is in the business of making money for the stock holders, not the energy business. They know damn well that green energy doesn't make as much money. It's sad that people here can't understand that. It's the bane of allowing publicly traded companies to have free range.

Now, if only the doom and gloom claims about running out of oil by now had actually come true.

 

[Guest102023]

TBE,

In all seriousness, has anyone ever observed that you are very easily distracted?

I don’t recommend you embark on a career in failure analysis; I expect something like ‘faulty politics’ would be your go-to root cause.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[Guest102023]

How do you expect people to learn when you dumb everything down?

Thinking up analogies for inexperienced engineers to understand loading scenarios and failure processes is a thing I regularly do.
Part of the teaching process involves helping them unlearn half understood technical concepts.

K.I.S.S. almost never fails, in every sphere of activity. Maybe you have heard of it?

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[Guest102023]

Lionel,

So in conclusion, we are not seeing a planet on fire, just an excess of negativity. Attitude adjustment will fix any problem.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[dik]

brims... you have to type more slowly... so they can catch up.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Guest102023]

My keyboard skills can be described as ‘hunt and peck’.
I can’t go any slower or I’ll stop!


"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[dik]

I'm down to about 20wpm... I used to do about 40 or 50... but, I'm getting old. My son, on a good day does over 120wpm... blazingly fast.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Guest102023]

But which would you rather have to listen to?


"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[rb1957]

I think dik is referring to the old joke ... an irishman words his mum a letter "I know you can't read well so I'm writing slowly"


another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[rb1957]

really ? you don't think Tom's statement is valid, without examples ? Any response will be met with "cherry-picking" 'cause no list will be complete.
Both sides of the argument are replete with examples of exaggeration.

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[Guest102023]

Both sides of the argument are replete with examples of exaggeration.

There’s no debate, there’s no symmetry and there’s no equivalence.

Only one side practices denialism, has no supporting science, is corporate funded, and sponsors lawmakers. None of this is helped by brain dead corporate controlled MSM and the chaos and discord generating Algorithm.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[TugboatEng]

Well, you got what you wanted. The rhetoric created enough fear that we are willing to give a guy with dementia carte blanche with $2.4 billion of unfunded money in the midst of sky high inflation.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...address-extreme-heat-and-boost-offshore-wind/

 

[rb1957]

"Only one side practices denialism, has no supporting science, is corporate funded, and sponsors lawmakers."

yeah, and the other side is as pure as eh driven snow, seeking only pure unadulterated knowledge.

as bill cosby would've said (in his stand up comic days) ... "rightttt".

you can have your truth, and you are welcome to it.

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[Guest102023]

rb1957,

Appreciate your science and fact based response; it was informative. But are you able to refute any part of my statement while staying within the bounds of basic logical argument?

Can you name any federal or state elected officials who are sponsored by corporate climate fearmongers? Didn’t think so.

Meanwhile in Virginia, Sen. Manchin (DINO) is wielding an obscene amount of power over the entire nation.

(Bill Cosby stopped being funny some time ago, for reasons that are way off topic.)

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[TugboatEng]

Sierra Club have $183,000 directly to federal level candidates.

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/sierra-club/C00135368/expenditures/2020

 

[rb1957]

@brimstoner ...
you win, I defer to your superior skills.

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?