Things are Starting to Warm Up Part II 24

[dik]

For earlier thread, see

thread1618-496010

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Guest102023]

$183,000 is not even coffee money for the Koch bros.

And this money is not dark.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[Guest102023]

rb1957,

It’s not about me. I want truth to be the winner.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[dik]

That's a totally different problem and a symptom of a failed...


No one is winning... we might all be losers. Time will tell.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[rb1957]

is this argument like the 3rd law, paraphrased "you can't leave the game" ?

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[dik]

Another anecdote... "Blistering heat waves have smashed temperature records around the globe this summer, scorching crops, knocking out power, fueling wildfires, buckling roads and runways, and likely killing thousands across Europe alone."

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/07/21/105629...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

Lake Mead from the LA Times...

"Recent satellite images from NASA show the dramatic water loss that has occurred over the last 22 years at drought-stricken Lake Mead, the nation’s largest reservoir and a lifeline for California, neighboring states and Mexico.

The images show how a deep blue strand of water snaking through the Nevada desert in August 2000 has drastically receded and narrowed amid the parched landscape by July of this year. Lake Mead and much of the Colorado River Basin are in the midst of a 22-year drought.

Water levels at Lake Mead — formed by the Hoover Dam — are at their lowest levels since 1937, when the reservoir was still being filled. As of July 18, the lake was at 27% capacity, according to the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation.

The lingering drought has brought with it a reduced snowpack, massive dust storms, persistent wildfires and vegetation that requires more water just to stay alive. The effects of the drought are exacerbated by climate change and accelerated carbon emissions, which in turn makes it more difficult for reservoirs to recharge, according to Michael Cohen of the Pacific Institute.

The way people live in the West is now being threatened, he said.

“Our way of life is already impacted,” Cohen said. “You can certainly argue that people’s lives are changing right now, because of climate change. And a lot of climate change just gets manifested in water, which means hotter, drier, less water available.”

Severe water restrictions are in place across the Western states as reservoirs and other sources of water dwindle. Bureau of Reclamation Commissioner Camille Calimlim Touton said during a Senate hearing in Washington last month that larger reductions in water usage are needed to maintain reservoirs like Lake Mead and Lake Powell.

“A warmer, drier West is what we are seeing today,” Touton told the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee. “And the challenges we are seeing today are unlike anything we have seen in our history.”

Cohen said agencies that regulate water use and irrigation are grappling now with the effects of climate change. He says those agencies need to reach out to state lawmakers and federal counterparts to push for more action on carbon emissions and climate change, because reservoirs will not be able to recharge.

“Because without that, we’re not going to catch up. What people associate with life in the West, it’s just gonna go away,” Cohen said.

Lake Mead serves approximately 25 million people in the West, including California, Arizona, Nevada, tribal lands and northern Mexico. Approximately 74% of nine Western states are experiencing some form of drought, with 35% seeing “extreme drought,” according to the U.S. Drought Monitor.

Over the last several months, the lake’s receding shoreline has revealed sunken boats and human remains, including a probable homicide victim.

Water levels at Lake Mead have precipitously dropped from 1,204 feet in June 2020 to 1,043 feet in June 2022, according to federal data. The last time the reservoir approached full capacity was in the summer of 1983 and 1999, nearing 1,220 feet.

Current projections from the Bureau of Reclamation shows that next summer could see a 20-foot reduction in water at Lake Mead.

A white band of dried rock surrounds the lake like a bathtub ring and tells a story of where the water levels once reached. The exposed lake bed reveals a sweeping pattern of cracked mud baking in the sun, mineralized areas of the shore that were once underwater, now littered with dead fish.

The latest satellite images confirm the alarms climate scientists have sounded about climate change and overuse of the Colorado River, which feeds into Lake Mead. The current situation may present one of the worst droughts in the West in the last 1,200 years, according to climate data."

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Guest102023]

And a lot of climate change just gets manifested in water, which means hotter, drier, less water available.”

Interesting phrasing there. Even water seems drier than it used to be.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[TugboatEng]

What ever happened to warm wet tropical air?

 

[Tomfh]

Examples please

How many examples do you want?

 

[dik]

In places, there is a lot more of it caused by the heating of the oceans... this causes more intense storms, etc. Unfortunately, the water doesn't always fall in the right spot. Calif can use it, and New York doesn't need it.

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

Just bad English... I got the drift of the message...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

It would be neat to see the run-off hydrograph for the Lake Mead watershed; does anyone have a print of this? Just to compare run-off slopes (a measure of the power it can generate).

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Guest102023]

How many examples do you want?

If you think you have too many examples then maybe we’ll have to negotiate. The only stipulation is that they be fact based.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[Guest102023]

Depletion is long term probably even more serious underground. Not just overdrafting but pollution of major aquifers.

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

 

[Tomfh]

If you think you have too many examples then maybe we’ll have to negotiate. The only stipulation is that they be fact based.

How many examples do you want? I am reluctant to provide you any examples when you are setting things up to move the goalposts. As rb1957 notes Any response will be met with "cheery-picking" 'cause no list will be complete.

 

[hokie66]

This thread is best left to dik and brimstoner. But wait, brimstoner promised to quit it several days ago, so dik, talk to yourself.

 

[dik]

I've done that for years...

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

Somebody seems to be taking this seriously...

"SHANGHAI, July 21 (Reuters) - China built nearly 31 gigawatts (GW) of new solar power capacity from January to June, up 137% from a year earlier, with full-year installations on course to hit a record high, an industry group said on Thursday.

Total solar power capacity now stands at 340 GW, up 25.8% compared to last year, Wang Bohua, the honorary chairman of the China Photovoltaic Industry Association, said in a presentation."

So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[Tomfh]

China built nearly 31 gigawatts (GW) of new solar power capacity from January to June, up 137% from a year earlier,

Their total coal capacity is 1100 GW, with another 250 GW in the pipeline.

Their overall energy mix:

 

[Guest102023]

Some cheery data I picked on Lake Mead



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